Configuring preferences and options in Outlook.com
Excellent blespvod. Unfortunately, that’s a bit beyond me to set up, setting up my own server.
I applaud your effort. This certainly would work. I wish we could get Gmail to simply do it.
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I have a few e-mail accounts, all online rather than desktop application, for differing reasons – no, none for anything dishonest or malevolent, not for spamming, nothing negative. And I normally use a gmail account to handle my Hotmail e-mail, and Outlook e-mail. (I have a couple extra account names I use in Hotmail, one is an Outlook name. That is, the e-mail to my Outlook name will come into my Hotmail account, as the Outlook name is effectively an alternate name for my Hotmail account. This is something you can do in Hotmail settings).
Mail coming into my Hotmail account automatically goes over to my Gmail account. When an e-mail originally comes into my Hotmail account using the Outlook name, it is moved over to my Gmail. When I respond to it from gmail, it will go via my Hotmail account using the Outlook name. That is set up in gmail, via SMTM (just like from a desktop e-mail client, which is what I use my gmail as, as my interface for Hotmail, because I find gmail preferable).
OK, now to the point. In recent months, when I get an incoming e-mail in my gmail account from my Outlook (Hotmail) account, and I try to respond to it, it is sent back saying it can’t connect, says I need to check my SMTP settings. Well, I have checked, and I checked to see if Hotmail/Outlook changed them since originally set up. My settings are exactly what Hotmail/Microsoft says they should be.
SMTP server: smtp.office365.com
user name: (that is the Outlook e-mail address)
password: (correct)
Port: 587
All that matches what Microsoft/Hotmail instructs to use.
But there is a problem. Any ideas?
Configuring preferences and options in Outlook.com
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Excellent blespvod. Unfortunately, that’s a bit beyond me to set up, setting up my own server.
I applaud your effort. This certainly would work. I wish we could get Gmail to simply do it.
blespvod,
This sounds interesting. I wasn’t able to see the full story at your website — I was reluctant to give my Microsoft log in — sorry, nothing against you, it’s just automatic best practice nowadays with so many places trying to steal our info and break into our accounts. I am not accusing you, you are providing something interesting, a solution.
Let me ask, how does this work. Is this you setting up an SMTP server that anyone can access online, and use that address in the setup in Gmail as the SMTP server, instead of the hotmail one? That server will receive the g-mail that is sent as normal with the failing SMTP server address. It then uses the newer tech on your side to send it to Hotmail/Outlook, which receives what I needs and sends the e-mail?
If so, that is excellent. Congratulations to you. Why couldn’t Microsoft or Google just provide that?!
I wish this could go through some known server online, All our e-mails sent that way would go to the SMTP server, where it could be accessed. Not sure if our logins would be involved, but all set would be viewable. Again, not accusing you at all, its just a reality of the Internet age. Hmm, maybe if we sent encrypted by a VPN that would protect it from being viewable at that SMTP server? But might that involve another complication?
Thank you for sharing this. At this moment, I can still sent from gmail via hotmail, so I can watch this and see if it evolves. But others might want to consider this for now.
It still would be best if Gmail simply conformed and did this.
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Thank you, your response was very helpful.
Well, please a bit more info about Gmailify (which at first consideration, I don’t want, but seems I will have to have. I do not want to have to take my e-mails on my cell phone and deal with the tiny screen and tiny keyboard too tiny for my finders, I hate that).
Is Gmailify available ONLY via an app on a cell phone, and from what I see, only on Android (I happen to have Android)? How does it work? Does it engage generally with my Gmail and Hotmail accounts? That is, once set up on Android, does it function across platforms, as in does it also affect in the same way how my gmail from desktop computer online sends under a Hotmail alias? Or do I have no choice but to stop using my direct gmail account from a desktop computer, or from a browser on the phone, I must use the e-mail app instead, rather than merely set things up on the app but continue as usual from my desktop computer?
Let me try to be more clear. If I set it up on Android, it will certainly work if I use that app on Android to send via a Hotmail alias (my primary hotmail account), right? But, since the link between the accounts is set up, will it also then work when I send from my Gmail account online from my desktop computer using Firefox browser via the Hotmail alias?
Fundamental question: If I set things up with the gmailify app on Android, will sending from gmail via the Hotmail alias work from Gmail online from my desktop computer and its browser?
Re whether I pull or push the e-mails from Hotmail to Gmail, I will have to check how it is set up now. But I had to change which way it went in the past because of issues with the original direction I set it up - it was inconsistent, so unreliable. Thus, how it is set now might be necessary.
I use a Mac. I also have an Android emulator on the Mac, and so could get Gmailify on that. If I set this up with Gmailify using that emulator, would it then work outside the emulator, in my Gmail account from my computer browser, simply because it is set up on that machine? It is not a realistic option to use it through the emulator, that emulator is VERY slow.
Thanks in advance for any answers or other input -- even though I expect they will all be negative.
Oh, wait! All that said, I now notice, is it true that we can use Gmailify only as a subscription app!? Sure, only $6.99 for now, but I don't even want it, and if I get it, I don't want to use it, just set things up and maybe when I send from another platform, the sends will go through it to actually send.
Would any of these alternatives below accomplish the same without any subscription -- Gmailify is simply a common e-mail client, such as you can have on the desktop of a computer (but I still don't want an e-mail client). In fact, could I use the one that comes with the Mac OS, called Mail (have never used it - again, I don't want an e-mail client on the desktop)?