Coming back to (re)installing, Canadiantech. »I bring the OS completely up to date«. How? I take a Win7 out of an old box, or get an unknown status (my wife just came home with her office laptop erased, and a **** Win7 installed, courtesy computer departement, after leaving the job). Now what? Ask Microsoft online for updates and install all, avoiding the »bad« ones? Frustrating.
KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?
Would you please tell me how to prevent the installation of KB3035583 in my computer and if it is already installed, how to remove it? Also, are there other updates that we need to be concerned about that enable this behaviour?
KB3035583 now appears as an Important update in Windows Update and is checked which means it will be automatically installed if the user does not uncheck it. If automatic update is set, it will install without intervention.
There are credible articles that say that Microsoft either has installed or will install changes to my computer that will enable Microsoft to use it as an advertising platform and then install Windows 10 without first obtaining an informed decision to do so. I truly hope this is not true.
On behalf of my clients and their 162 Windows "consumer" computers, I must tell you that we do not grant Microsoft or any other vendor the right to do this. When other Windows players do this, we regard it as malware and take great care to remove it.
Microsoft got to where it is today by selling Windows. We have spent decades learning how to use Windows and billions of dollars buying Windows computers and Windows software. We own these systems. They are ours, not Microsoft's.
Windows Update has earned a huge trust. We trust Microsoft to use Windows Update to keep our computers safe and secure. When Patch Tuesday comes along we install all the updates that Microsoft says are "important." We assume those to be either plugging a security leak or fixing a software error.
We all hope Windows 10 will be something we will want. We will carefully review and consult trusted advisors before we install Windows 10. We have seen Windows 8 and rejected it. Windows 8 is a bad product we did not choose.
Automatically installing Windows 10 on our computers would be a severe abuse of a well-earned trust. Changing our computers to enable them to become advertising platforms is also an abuse.
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2015-10-31T02:40:24+00:00 It's official ..... Microsoft has announced (see here, here, and here) that sometime in early 2016, they will (again) release an update that (if you have set Windows Update to "Install Updates automatically") will automatically initiate the Windows 10 installation process on your computer (regardless of whether or not you actually want Windows 10).
In the last paragraph, I used the word "again" because around mid-October 2015 Microsoft did almost the exact same thing ... then later apologized and called it a "mistake" (see here and here).
Next time Microsoft tries to coerce their customers into installing Windows 10 (especially those who are not computer savvy and have Windows Update set to "automatic") .... it will not be a "mistake" .... it will be "officially" intentional. Microsoft has already announced that they want to see Windows 10 on a billion devices within 2 or 3 years ... and it appears they are trying to accomplish that goal regardless of their customer's desires.
I think the universal recommendation from those who have followed this thread is:
Do not use the "automatic" setting in Windows Update.
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Anonymous
2015-10-28T13:46:08+00:00 I have a standard practice that I have been following for some years now. It has saved my bacon so many times, and has never failed me.
When I re-build an OS, replace a HD, or get a new PC on my desk:
- I bring the OS completely up to date
- ensure all drivers are in place
- Install office and update it
- Install Any other stable, mostly unchanging apps
- Set my particular preferred settings
- Then I create a system image with a set of DVD+Rs (numbers from 2 to 6), and give them to my client. In the event the system needs rebuilding, boot to the System Repair disk, find your way to the Restore from image selection, and do so. It usually takes about 20 minutes.
- Bring Window up to date
This way, no install disk needed, no product key needed, all that is needed is updating, the client loading his unique apps, and his backed up data.
If your system is already loaded with data, you can do the same thing but you will need a large HD that will become your backup set, and it will include data which could be several years out of date
http://www.canadiantech.info/for-techies/windows-7-replace-your-hard-drive/
http://www.canadiantech.info/for-techies/re-build-windows-7/
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Anonymous
2015-10-28T05:50:55+00:00 » … Kaspersky: they now protect against "operating system changes" too. I promptly asked them, if they also protect against Win 7 to Win 10, and I’m curious how they will reply; I’ll let you know.«
Kaspersky didn’t say "vs. canges made by Microsoft"! Persomally I doubt that they do this, at least willingly. They might backup "stati quo", to in case reverse to earlier systems, but that’s speculation, I will let you know what Kaspersky answers to my specific ("press") question. Sorry for my misleading formulation. – Incidentally: I don’t find the classic way to produce a restart point with msconfig, the many "tools" offered there seem dormant. Wintertime hibernation? What would you suggest to produce a safety CD or DVD or stick to (re)install a clean Win 7?
PS. Kaspersky replied: They do NOT protect against Win 10, "The installation of Windows 10 [from Win 7 etc.] is NOT included [in the protection vs. operating system changes]" – what a pity!
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Anonymous
2015-10-27T21:42:21+00:00 You may be interested in this thread
https://community.norton.com/en/forums/protect-us-against-unwanted-windows-updates
wherein some of the regulars react with disbelief at the idea that any anti-virus software purveyor would protect against unwanted operating system changes.