KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?

I have exactly similar worries....I did download W10 and found it to be nothing but a trashy advertising platform from start to finish...it also deleated my expensive security program and seemed to have lost about 450 GBytes of videos buried in there under all the you can buy me!!! apps on every page...thank somebody to have included a way of getting rid of the nasty thing......only now I have about 23 gwx files (all W10 downloading ****) stuck in my computer....and when you get into it and try to delete them yoou are denied permission because  Trustedinstaller owns them......I'm afraid now of accepting any updates for fear W10 is being snuck in through the backdoor.......This is a form of Malware by any definition........even down to deleating a very expensive Security program....which isn't supposre to happen....how do I get rid of all those gwx files????I want W10 out of my hair altogether.........I was so infuriated with what this program did  (primarily in seeming to have deleated450GBytes of data) I was about to call an attorney for being hit with fraud!!!

Hi Canada Tech ,I have had the WU blocked since June , my computer has never worked better, just prior it was uploading hundreds of updates almost every time I turned it on , now it starts up instantly ,runs so smooth, probably better than any computer I have ever had

My question is what if I never turn WU back on ?my fears now are that if I let it update there will be tens of thousands of WU's just waiting to infest my computer

ATB and thanks for all the great info

Andy

Two choices:  One by Woody Leonhard:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2993131/microsoft-windows/disable-windows-10-upgrade-nagware-on-windows-7-windows-81-computers.html

My recommendations:

http://www.canadiantech.info/for-techies/prevent-windows-10/

I have advised my clients to do what I have dreaded doing for years — turn off Automatic Windows Update.

The problem is stems from an incessant drive by Microsoft to install Windows 10 on your computer without your permission.  They keep re-installing KB3035583 (that is the enabler) on your computer, even if you uninstall and hide it.  The result is the huge download and then constant nags without an apparent way to say no.

So I have advised my clients to shut down WU.  Once a month on the 2nd Tuesday, they will get an email from me advising to manually start WU and then to reject specific updates like KB3035583.  Then update.  WU remains on NEVER.

Some may scoff at this idea.  Well they are incorrect.  Never means you are never giving Microsoft a chance to decide what you download and install.  It does NOT mean you will never update.  The difference is that now you take control and the responsibility of updating of Windows and Office.

Some may believe that Microsoft would not do such a stupid thing.  You must read Woody Leonhard (one of the most respected writers in the trade)  http://www.infoworld.com/article/2983777/microsoft-windows/how-to-clean-the-windows-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html?nsdr=true Woody calls the Windows 10 download “crapware.”

If you see the Windows flag on the bottom right of your screen, chances are pretty high, your computer already has the Win10 file. Even if you do not, it may be on your computer shortly anyway.  Here are instructions on how to rid yourself of it:

If you are using windows 7, and have not installed win10 and do not want it, here is a procedure that I have used many times and it works.

This process works, but it only works if you do all the steps and do them in order.

1. Take Windows Update off automatic — Never check for updates
2. Task Manager, processes, find and end GWX.exe
3. Windows Update, Installed updates, WAIT a long time till you see the green bar complete its long trip to the right
4. Now, search for KB3035583, uninstall it
5. If there are others you want to uninstall, click Later
6. Then, clear the search box and after a brief wait, enter another KB number.
7. Restart the PC
8. Disk cleanup — this takes a while.  It is a 2 step process.   After the initial window appears, click the “Clean up system files” button
9. You may find a “Temporary Windows Installation files” there that is anywhere from 4 to 8 Gigabytes.  It is the Win10 downloaded file. Put a check mark on that item.
10. OK, Delete Files
11. Restart
12. The startup will take a long time while it finishes cleanup

Alternatively, you will find a solution in a Woody Leonhard article:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2979572/microsoft-windows/gwx-stopper-an-easy-way-to-permanently-delete-get-windows-10-nagware-in-windows-7-and-81.html

If you choose “check for updates, but let me choose whether to download and install them”, Microsoft will download an “important” updates like KB3035583 to your computer.  It will be pre-checked — selected.  Unless you check Windows Update (WU) and discover this BEFORE you shut down, it will install it during the shut-down process.   Hiding accomplishes nothing.

If you are going to take control of your computer and prevent Microsoft from downloading and installing their malware, you have to lock them out altogether.

I am advising my clients that they take full control and responsibility for WU from now on.  I will advise them each 2nd Tuesday of the month on the to start WU, uncheck specific updates and complete the update.  For now, KB3035583 and KB2952664 are on that list.  As well as KB2977759, KB3075249, KB3080149, KB3083710, KB3083324,  KB3022345, KB3090045 and  KB3068708.

You will find a constantly updated list of updates to reject at Ask Woody (Woody Leonhard) http://www.askwoody.com/category/microsoft-windows-patches-security/

This is more than annoying.  It goes way beyond that.  It is underhanded, dishonest and just plain wrong for Microsoft to do this.  There is no offer to accept or refuse.  There is no informed consent.  There is not even an idea of what it is your getting and what the result is if you change your mind.

This will happen to your computer whether you asked for it or not!

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2983777/microsoft-windows/how-to

-clean-the-windows-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html?nsdr=true

Once you have it downloaded to your computer, it will nag you very frequently and not offer you an option to stop it or reject it.  It will not even allow you to update Windows 7 any longer.

Would you please tell me how to prevent the installation of KB3035583 in my computer and if it is already installed, how to remove it?  Also, are there other updates that we need to be concerned about that enable this behaviour?

I am having more issues with this KB as well. Here is a short description of the problem from another post I had on anther site."

"Hi just found your article while debriefing myself after a mess with a new .net 4.6 issue and want to see what you guys think or if this is just coincidence. Started 2 days or so ago when all of a sudden win 7 ult 64 bit with . Net 4.6 started to fail with errors launching any program that requires 4.0 or above. 4.6 still showing as installed but both attempts to uninstall or repair install fail with non descriptive error akin to "something went wrong". All other logs make no mention related to it. After exhaustively searching for what had changed found that last batch of updates in wsus cab2 (?) installed kb3035583 which turns out to be the Windows 10 "important" and "automatic" update to install that pesky harrasser that reminds you to reserve or start download of win 10 from ms update. Problem being that it crashed and corrupted the existing .net4.6 while at the same time setting the default minimum currently for Win 10 at 4.6 only. So it was both blocking attempts to uninstall or repair the broken .net 4.6. Hijacked existing win 7 update so that only option is to start downloading win 10 in background. Only option seems to be to totally delete Windows/system32/gwx.exe. Only then can you uninstall that update and only then can you uninstall .net 4.6. As soon as I did that and installed 4.5.2 everything is back to normal working order. I wonder how many people won't go that far or accidentally start the Win 10 download over their working win 7 os. Anyway just the nightmare I just woke up from and word of caution to others"

So I just got off the phone with both the Home users "Answer Desk" and then MSFT Technet Technical Support and neither would confirm what the KB3035583 actually does in relation to any .net installations.

Said I would have to pay $499 to "open a case" which is absolutely ridiculous when this is an "update" that without our knowledge was just changed from "optional" to "automatic" and will install if people aren't as tech savy. To stop it from installing one has to make sure to take Windows Update off of automatic and then every time you get a notification you need to check which updates it wants to install and manually hide that update. Once it is installed there is a whole lengthy procedure to get it removed correctly.

As far as I can tell it does affect the .net framework so that is seems to set the .net allowable minimum on Windows 7 to .net 4.6.   So then the .net 4.6 has it's own set of issues and itself is not stable. When it inevitably has an issue comes up and gets damaged/corrupted you can no longer roll back to one of the .net 4.5 versions. Trying to run the .net 4.6 installer (any version tried so far) will either give an outright blocked installation message when you try or it will attempt to "repair" the .net 4.6 but fails every time..also nice that after it fails it gives the super helpful error message of "something went wrong"  which in my opinion should just be replaced by a picture of a middle finger for all the help that is...way to go msft..  keep trying to sneak in the back door (pun intended) with all of us who are not real keen on moving from our (previously) working Windows 7 machines to this jacked up/unstable  Windows 10 thing.

There is a reason we are still using Windows 7 and didn't go to Windows 8. What makes you think you can force people to accept this Windows 10 nightmare by trying every sneaky method in the book? I hope more people get wind of this kind of behavior. In my case I just bought an IMac, which previously I've never even considered...so way to go Windows...made me a Mac user now.  I have a Windows 10 computer also BTW that is so messed up that immediately after doing the 20th (not kidding) "clean install" tells me I don't have "sufficient permissions" to save a .txt file to my desktop. going to have to file it in the "corporate recycling bin".....(ie: the trash) until msft can extricate their heads from their hind ends.

To reply to the second part about other updates affected..here is a copy of the .bat file I'm now running on a daily basis.

wusa /uninstall /kb:3083711 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3083710 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3083325 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3083324 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3080149 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3075853 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3075851 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3075249 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3072318 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3065988 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3065987 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3050267 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3050265 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3044374 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3021917 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3014460 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3012973 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:2977759 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:2976978 /norestart

    wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664 /norestart

I am skeptical about their claim that pre-checking the Win 10 upgrade was a mistake. 

I share your skepticism.

It appears Microsoft's management feels that it is easier to post an empty apology than to first ask permission (and honor the customer's choice).

Microsoft seems desperate to increase their numbers of Windows 10 installations. Their attempts at getting Windows 10 installed (regardless of customer's choice) seem to be getting more desperate.  Perhaps too many bonuses depend upon hitting a specific percentage.