KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?

I don't know where that product the writer described is. It's clearly not Win10.

When IE9 was not even in beta yet, I followed the IE blog. I noticed that the suggestions came from the Developers and Programmers. It was only after it was in beta and the users were testing and giving feedback. They should have listened to the Users that buy their product first.

Microsoft needs to stay with what they know and that is computers. Desktops and Laptops and stop with the touch screens and trying to make a computer into a smart phone. They have forgotten that users use their computers for work. Like you said, we know where to go for entertainment. They can't be all things to all people and that's part of the problem.

Hotmail is another issue. They've changed it to Outlook dot com and it's a mess. When I have time, I'll make a change there. You can't even print an email now, you have to go to the web to do it. Glad I have Firefox and use that and I've been thinking I may research Thunderbird.

I remember when Win7 launched, it was exciting! No one had to push the Win7 OS unto Vista and invade everyone's privacy.

I'm going to bookmark your forecast:-)

Contained within the linked article is the actual link to a Microsoft representative's blog:

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/

So far as I can see it ignores the questions raised here.  But of greater note is that a sympathetic writer--the one who wrote the linked article--used this Microsoft blog to discredit criticism.

I read that also. Of course he has to put the best spin on Win10. A lot of comments have been posted on the various discussions here and they should address them.

In my opinion, if MS wants their credibility and trust back, they need to stop downloading/installing anything Windows 10 related and make that known.

Post that here and else where. We can provide them a list of websites to post their mea culpa to:-)

Until then, we'll do whatever is necessary to protect our computers from unwanted invasion.

I read the linked article.  At its best, if I believe the writer, it really boils down to the question of whether I want to buy the product he describes.  I do not!

Windows is an environment I do work in.  An environment in which I want no distractions.  I need it to be clean and efficient and easy to use, so that I can get that work done effectively.  I need it to be constant and be unchanging unless I need a change and it helps me do better work.   It is not an entertainment centre to me.  When I want entertainment, I will use the tool, device or environment in which I prefer to be entertained.  That is not likely to be Windows 10. 

What I reject about Windows 10 is that it is designed as an entertainment environment.  That is not a product I want.  I do not believe I am alone in my way of thinking.  In the end, the market will speak.  I forecast (write it down somewhere) that 2 years from now after hundreds of millions of dollars of hype, the world will finally wake up to the fact that Windows 10 is not what the market wanted.  Just as they finally after 2 years admitted that Windows 8 (and Vista) was not what the market wanted.  Maybe Windows 12 will be a true advancement on Windows 7, which is the gold standard for OS's.

Microsoft's all but illegal push to "convert" its customers to its way of thinking is oppressive and I reject it completely if for no other reason than that.  This excessive pushiness makes Microsoft's lack of confidence that it has the right product, very obvious.  If it thought it had a true winner out there, it would advertise its availability and leave it to the market to respond.  Instead they are abusing the biggest corporate asset they have, their unparalleled customer base.

Instead of collecting data, why don't they turn the telephones back on and listen to CUSTOMERS?  This forum, which surely they own, would be a good place to start.

Contained within the linked article is the actual link to a Microsoft representative's blog:

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/

So far as I can see it ignores the questions raised here.  But of greater note is that a sympathetic writer--the one who wrote the linked article--used this Microsoft blog to discredit criticism.

I have written this on this forum numerous times.  There is only one way to take back control.......

I have advised my clients to do what I have dreaded doing for years -- turn off Automatic Windows Update. 

The problem is compounded by an incessant drive by Microsoft to install Windows 10 on your computer without your permission.  They keep re-installing KB3035583 (that is the enabler) on your computer, even if you uninstall it.  The result is the huge download and then constant nags without an apparent way to say no.

So I have advised my clients to shut down WU.  Once a month on the 2nd Tuesday, they will get an email from me advising to manually start WU and then to reject specific updates like KB3035583.  Then update.  WU remains on NEVER.

Some may scoff at this idea.  Well they are incorrect.  Never means you are never giving Microsoft a chance to decide what you download and install.  It does NOT mean you will never update.  The difference is that now you take on the responsibility of updating.

Some may believe that Microsoft would not do such a stupid thing.  You must read Woody Leonhard (one of the most respected writers in the trade)  http://www.infoworld.com/article/2983777/microsoft-windows/how-to-clean-the-windows-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html?nsdr=true Woody calls the Windows 10 download “crapware.”

If you see the Windows flag on the bottom right of your screen, chances are pretty high, your computer already has the Win10 file. Even if you do not, it may be on your computer by now anyway.  Here are instructions on how to rid yourself of it:

If you are using windows 7, and have not installed win10 and do not want it, here is a procedure that I have used many times and it works. 

1. Take Windows Update off automatic -- Never check
2. Task Manager, processes, find and end GWX.exe
3. Windows Update, Installed updates, WAIT a long time till you see the green bar complete its long trip to the right
4. Now, search for KB3035583, uninstall it
5. If there are others you want to uninstall, click Later
6. Then, clear the search box and after a brief wait, enter another KB number.
7. Restart the PC
8. Disk cleanup, do the 2nd step for System -- this takes a while
9. You should find a Temporary Installation file there that is anywhere from 4 to 8 Gigabytes.  It is the Win10 downloaded file. Put a check mark on that item.
10. OK, Delete Files
11. Restart
12. The startup will take a long time while it finishes cleanup

Alternatively, you will find a solution in a Woody Leonhard article:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2979572/microsoft-windows/gwx-stopper-an-easy-way-to-permanently-delete-get-windows-10-nagware-in-windows-7-and-81.html

If you choose “check for updates, but let me choose whether to download and install them”, Microsoft will download an "important" update KB3035583 to your computer.  It will be pre-checked -- selected.  Unless you check WU and discover this BEFORE you shut down, it will install it during the shut-down process.   Hiding accomplishes nothing.

If you are going to take control of your computer and prevent Microsoft from downloading and installing their malware, you have to lock them out altogether. 

I am advising my clients that they will take full control and responsibility for WU from now on.  I will advise them each month on the 2nd Tuesday to start WU, uncheck specific updates and complete the update.  Of course for now KB3035583 and KB2952664 are on that list.  As well as KB2977759, KB3075249, KB3080149, KB3083710, KB3083324,  KB3022345, and  KB3068708

You will find a constantly updated list of updates to reject at Ask Woody (Woody Leonhard) http://www.askwoody.com/category/microsoft-windows-patches-security/

This is more than annoying.  It goes way beyond that.  It is underhanded, dishonest and just plain wrong for them to do this.  There is no offer to accept or refuse.  There is no informed consent.  There is not even an idea of what it is your getting and what the result is if you change your mind.

This will happen to your computer whether you asked for it or not!

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2983777/microsoft-windows/how-to-clean-the-windows-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html?nsdr=true

Once you have it downloaded to your computer, it will nag you very frequently and not offer you an option to stop it or reject it.  It will not even allow you to update Windows 7 any longer. 

If you read much here at this web site, you will find hundreds of people who let it happen, did not like it, and tried to return to Win7 and end up with a computer that was unusable.