KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?

Anonymous
2015-04-12T11:56:46+00:00

Would you please tell me how to prevent the installation of KB3035583 in my computer and if it is already installed, how to remove it?  Also, are there other updates that we need to be concerned about that enable this behaviour?

KB3035583 now appears as an Important update in Windows Update and is checked which means it will be automatically installed if the user does not uncheck it.  If automatic update is set, it will install without intervention.

There are credible articles that say that Microsoft either has installed or will install changes to my computer that will enable Microsoft to use it as an advertising platform and then install Windows 10 without first obtaining an informed decision to do so.  I truly hope this is not true.

On behalf of my clients and their 162 Windows "consumer" computers, I must tell you that we do not grant Microsoft or any other vendor the right to do this.  When other Windows players do this, we regard it as malware and take great care to remove it.

Microsoft got to where it is today by selling Windows.  We have spent decades learning how to use Windows and billions of dollars buying Windows computers and Windows software.  We own these systems.  They are ours, not Microsoft's.

Windows Update has earned a huge trust.  We trust Microsoft to use Windows Update to keep our computers safe and secure.  When Patch Tuesday comes along we install all the updates that Microsoft says are "important." We assume those to be either plugging a security leak or fixing a software error.

We all hope Windows 10 will be something we will want.  We will carefully review and consult trusted advisors before we install Windows 10.  We have seen Windows 8 and rejected it.  Windows 8 is a bad product we did not choose.  

Automatically installing Windows 10 on our computers would be a severe abuse of a well-earned trust.  Changing our computers to enable them to become advertising platforms is also an abuse.

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  1. Anonymous
    2015-09-03T13:54:02+00:00

    There may be a difference between deceit and lack of transparency, but the problem is that Microsoft's handling of KB3035583 demonstrates deceit--starting with the deceptive labeling of the update--and once you cross that line and give the customers reasons to distrust the update process, you can't plausibly explain the next transgression(s) by blaming the staff for opaque technical writing.

    As I said, Microsoft needs to clean up its act.  And let's stop trying to marginalize as paranoid those individuals who have brought its anti-customer actions to light.

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-09-03T13:34:57+00:00

    There is a difference between deceit and lack of transparency. The problem, for many like me, is that the Knowledge Base Articles are not written in plain English, rendering their meaning open to misinterpretation. The conspiracy theories flourish in this environment. Many detractors of Microsoft enjoy posting negative comments when they would employ their time better offering solutions.

    I was not discussing KB3035583 in my earlier message. It has not been an issue for me.

    In posting to the Microsoft Community Forums my intentions are to learn how to make the most of what is on offer and to share that knowledge with others. If you believe every conspiracy theory then it becomes very difficult to advance your own knowledge and to make the most of what Microsoft software has to offer.

    When Microsoft get things wrong the user has always had the option to  use third party add ons or a workaround to achieve a satisfactory outcome. Consider these:

    Windows XP security issues resulted in Microsoft introducing multiple security updates faced on customer feedback.

    Millennium Edition and Vista resulted in Microsoft introducing better versions of Windows before they intended to.

    Ribbon introduced in Office 2007 did not suit many customers' needs. Workaround is to use the Quick Access toolbar but you can purchase third party add-ons.

    Lack of Start Menu in Windows 8 resulted in Microsoft providing a revised Start Menu in Windows 8.1. You can also obtain third party freeware alternatives. You can also learn to use keyboard shortcuts, which will help you greatly when using Windows 10.

    Microsoft Edge could be creating new issues but you can still have Internet Explorer 11 or a third party alternative as your default browser in Windows 10.

    The above created major problems for customers. I just do not see that complaining about the new Microsoft Diagnostic tool  is a real grievance when compared to the real problems created in the past. It is just the latest of a long line of such tools. Typetroubleshooting in a search box in Windows 10 and select View all and you are presented with a list of 23 Online Tools. I see this as a clear indication of how Microsoft see as the best way forward to resolve customers problems with their software, when they have so many customers expectations to satisfy.

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-09-03T13:01:53+00:00

    I don't think my advice is in any way questionable.  I have a very happy and satisfied clientele who appreciate the advice and help they get.  The practices that I espouse are designed and are effective at keeping their investments useful for much longer periods than most achieve.  I take great pride in this achievement.

    You raise an excellent question Gerry.  I wish I had a reasonable answer.  I have investigated.

    Best I can see it there are two alternatives, Apple and Ubuntu.

    Ubuntu in my appraisal is just not ready for the common person

    Apple is an excellent alternative that has severe limitations in flexibility and a price differential that is quickly being reduced as demand for Windows PCs (due to the unacceptability of Windows 8) has fallen and the prices for them have risen so dramatically over the last few years.  I expect that many of my clients will be switching to Apple devices.  I do recognize that Apple does a lot of the same anti-privacy things too and is arrogant to the extreme.  Many of my Windows clients now own and use iPads extensively, and as a result use their Windows PCs much less than a few years ago.

    So, the bottom line is that Windows really owns the market because it is still the best alternative.  That advantage evolved over a lot of years and is now being quickly eroded by some very bad management decisions.  For now, we can manage with Windows 7 at least through its life of another 4 years or so.  After that, we will see where the chips have fallen.

    My bottom line strategy is to keep Windows 7 computers running well, while keeping the door closed as much as practical to invasive tactics that threaten those investments.

    I take great comfort in knowing the IT world which I believe makes up about half the Windows marketplace is not about to bite the Windows 10 bullet.  That will leave a very heavy demand for Windows 7 support as a must for Microsoft for a long time to come.  Perhaps it will even be extended for the same reasons XP was.

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-09-03T12:14:49+00:00

    Given the record of deceit that Microsoft has accumulated in their handling of update KB3035583, they need to clean up their act before expecting customers to trust them.  If you equate distrust of Microsoft with a lack of support for Windows--you know, the kind of support given by longtime customers who stick with Windows despite Microsoft's trickery--then you have not read the thread in any detail.

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  5. Anonymous
    2015-09-03T11:59:48+00:00

    If that is the way you feel why do you not promote the use of an alternative operating system instead of offering questionable advice on how other users should use Windows?

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