Clean Install of Windows 11 Ni Preview Build works with Build 22557, but not with 22563, 22567, 22572, 22581, 22593, 25115

Anonymous
2022-03-11T03:48:13+00:00

I created all 5 installation ISO files for all 5 Builds, but only 22557 contains all the system Apps required for a full clean install, the other 4 are missing all the basic Windows and System Apps needed for a functional system. Also, the App required for opening Windows Security (Microsoft.SecHeatlthUI) is missing, all this makes the resulting system unusable.

Last one on 22557.

Microsoft.SecHealthUI Microsoft.SecHealthUI_1000.22557.1.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe

I noticed another issue common to all the Ni builds, if they are used for an upgrade or in-place they may only work correctly if they are done online allowing the check for updates.

If I use the option "Change how Setup download updates" to "Not right now", the upgrade or update in place still completes, but it creates a problem on subsequent W.U.

In this case W.U. goes in a loop trying to Download and Install the same Build over and over. Error 0xc1900401 is logged in that case.

I could not find a way out of that loop.

If I do the same upgrade or update in place online letting the Setup check for updates, as recommended, the process may complete correctly without subsequent W.U. loop issues, but the behavior is inconsistent depending on how the previous update was done.

The official MS Insider ISO 22579 includes all the required Apps and the Microsoft.SecHealthUI which is needed for opening Security.

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  1. Anonymous
    2022-03-30T19:14:40+00:00

    The question remains on how they update the Apps for the new Build level with W.U. ?

    They have to download the updates one way or another. 😎

    IDK, maybe that is what the Update Stack Package does, or the Online Service Experience Pack.

    I doubt every single app needs updating with each new build.

    Hi Sibro,

    Built an ISO from uup files with Updates and the Apps for 22581.200 Windows 11 Pro.

    The clean install worked without any issues and all the stuff needed is there.

    The MS Store still finds 29 updates after the installation.

    Not something I would like to do for every Build. 😒

    As Johnny suggested for now it is a workaround.

    Hopefully they will get a way of Building a working ISO using the files downloaded by W.U.

    We'll see what abbodi1406 comes up with.

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  2. Anonymous
    2022-03-30T04:57:05+00:00

    The question remains on how they update the Apps for the new Build level with W.U. ?

    They have to download the updates one way or another. 😎

    IDK, maybe that is what the Update Stack Package does, or the Online Service Experience Pack.

    I doubt every single app needs updating with each new build.

    Not all of the Apps, most will be updated with MS Store, but we saw that SecHealthUI is different on each Build and it cannot be updated from the MS Store. The same for Settings and other basic WindowsApps.

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  3. Anonymous
    2022-03-30T04:47:53+00:00

    The question remains on how they update the Apps for the new Build level with W.U. ?

    They have to download the updates one way or another. 😎

    IDK, maybe that is what the Update Stack Package does, or the Online Service Experience Pack.

    I doubt every single app needs updating with each new build.

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  4. Anonymous
    2022-03-30T04:32:21+00:00

    The Build upgrade done with W.U. works fine and all the WindowsApps are updated, but where are those files downloaded?

    The current converter script v79 is not finding any of those Apps in the Windows\SoftwareDistribution folder to include in the ISO.

    So where could those files be? 😎

    Maybe MS finally found a way to use existing files and download what is strictly necessary to complete the update instead of downloading everything every time.

    The question remains on how they update the Apps for the new Build level with W.U. ?

    They have to download the updates one way or another. 😎

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  5. Anonymous
    2022-03-30T04:19:03+00:00

    The Build upgrade done with W.U. works fine and all the WindowsApps are updated, but where are those files downloaded?

    The current converter script v79 is not finding any of those Apps in the Windows\SoftwareDistribution folder to include in the ISO.

    So where could those files be? 😎

    Maybe MS finally found a way to use existing files and download what is strictly necessary to complete the update instead of downloading everything every time.

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