Hello All,

after many month of complaints about the terrible New Outlook and requests by thousands to keep the Mail App, it is finally happening ... Mail refuses to open as such and converts to New Outlook .. no matter what you try.

I avoided it for the last year but It was after all announced and had to end one day.

To quickly restate: The Mail App is so much superior, simple, yet efficient, clean and straight forward. New Outlook is over-engineered, bloated, full of useless folders and features, slow and pestering with ads, let alone that I DON'T need more AI to run my life!! ... a clear approach, it seems, by some developer nerds at Microsoft to justify their miserable existence (and paycheck) by adding more and more useless **** to a product that is good as is.

Don't get me wrong ... I'm a devoted Microsoft user and would never touch anything Apple with a 2x4 ... slow, senile, unprofessional, un-customizable ... just bad, expensive ... and the most crooked company on the planet.

However, Microsoft, the Mail App was a very good product! Why did you have to sack it?

Did you ever hear about Bauhaus? Design and Practicality to serve the human body and needs? Do you understand how a simple round knob on a car radio is so much more user friendly than a million tiny push buttons like in the 80's or menu hierarchies?

Anyways ... I uninstalled, already month ago, everything remotely related to Outlook, down to the registry. I have a stand-alone, purchased office suite and no need for Outlook 365, Outlook or New Outlook ... and everything works like a charm.

(I'm a graphic designer and image editor, using top notch machines and software, large files, dealing with clients)

As a Mail platform I've got "Blue Mail" now, free from the Microsoft Store ... as clean, easy to navigate, even with 4 - 5 email addresses, and as fast as Mail ... works great and no advertisements or stupid AI!!

Cheers and Good Luck everyone!

There is a misunderstanding!!

The thread above is NOT about New and Old Outlook!!

It's about the stand-alone Mail App, which has nothing to do with Outlook.

It came with Win11 to handle email - no Outlook, New or Old, necessary.

Both, New and Old Outlook are ****!

Please read posts carefully.

No, it does not work. Outlook (new) auto-installs itself.

Hello, do you remember problem with internet explorer that Microsoft forced to use? This is even worse and sooner or later it will ends in juridical problem and heavy millions lost by Microsoft, let's hope sooner, waiting for that,, I move to Linux and already I've ordered Macs

Dear Aetherum,

Thank you for your patience and cooperation.

First of all, please understand that starting from 2024, new Windows 11 devices will come pre installed with new Outlook as the default email application. Reference: Outlook for Windows: The Future of Mail, Calendar, and People on Windows 11 - Microsoft Support

Currently, if you wish to continue using Mail and Calendar without automatically redirecting to New Outlook, additional settings are required. Please refer to the following steps:

Note: The highlighted area is the current user name (# comment bar can be deleted)

1.Replace the YOURUSERNAME with actual username of your PC.

2.Select all the codes below and copy them.

3.Open PowerShell with administrator privilege, you can search PowerShell in search bar, right-click it and choose to run with administrator.

4.Once PowerShell is opened, paste the codes into it, and press enter.

Define the folder path to operate on

$folderPath = "C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Local\Packages\microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalState\Migration"

Define the path of the file to delete

$fileToDelete = "$folderPath\settings.json"

1. Delete the specified file (if it exists)

if (Test-Path -Path $fileToDelete) {

Remove-Item -Path $fileToDelete -Force

Write-Host "File $fileToDelete has been deleted."

} else {

Write-Host "File $fileToDelete does not exist."

}

Get the username of the current logged-in user

$currentUser = [System.Security.Principal.WindowsIdentity]::GetCurrent().Name

2. Get the Access Control List (ACL) of the folder

$acl = Get-Acl -Path $folderPath

Define a new access rule to deny write access for the current user

$denyWriteRule = New-Object System.Security.AccessControl.FileSystemAccessRule($currentUser, "Write", "Deny")

Add the deny write access rule to the folder's ACL

$acl.AddAccessRule($denyWriteRule)

Apply the modified ACL to the folder

Set-Acl -Path $folderPath -AclObject $acl

Output the result of the operation

Write-Host "Write access denied for $currentUser on $folderPath"

The code performs two actions. You can also perform these actions manually if your code does not perform them correctly.

1. deletes the settings.json file inside C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Local\Packages\microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalState\Migration

2. Add a deny write rule to the Migration folder security permissions.

Hope this help you, please feel free to let me know how it goes. If there is any deviation in my understanding, please forgive me and provide me with more details. I am more than happy to continue to help you.

Best Regards,

Addie.C - MSFT | Microsoft Community Support Specialist