Using New Outlook on Windows for professional communication and productivity
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For years I used the tray icon clock to open a calendar. It looked like this (except Save & More Details were not greyed out).
Clicking a date I could fill out "Add an event or reminder", add a time and location.
Jan 10 2024 "New Outlook" auto imposed itself. It insisted I give it an email address or it wouldn't play ball. I gave it my MS-account email (that happen to be an gmail account). I imagined Outlook would copy all the old calendar items. It didn't. New Outlook was blank.
I was going to start using Outlook before it forced me. Not because I wanted to but because it seemed, after searching for years, that is the only possible way to make a calendar backup.
I believe I clicked Add calendar --> edit my calendar (New Outlook) trying to find a way to make my calendar entries appear when suddenly all my calendar entries where gone. They never appeared in New Outlook and were gone from the tray icon clock as well.
I can add new entries to New Outlook and I noticed they appear in my gmail account (calendar) as well.
I've more or less given up retrieving my old calendar entries. Thankfully I don't really need them. Searching this community for tips I looked in New Outlook "Deleted items". It's empty.
Now the tray icon clock calendar isn't only empty, the "Save" and "More details" are both greyed out. Is there a way to restore the convenience of the old functionality. Meaning I can add items via the tray icon clock again? I also have a vague hope if this is restored all my old entries will reappear.
Using New Outlook on Windows for professional communication and productivity
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Microsoft motto...."If it ain't broke, f**k with it".
When you are told that something new replaces something old you assume it has all the same functionality. Apparently not. I switched to New Outlook, then removed Mail and Calendar and my agenda completely disappeared from tray. No more calendar entries for easy viewing. This is unacceptable! Will try to go back to old solution, cause the new one does not have all the functionalities. Ridiculous...
The new Outlook Calendar is GARBAGE. Talk about user unfriendly its atrocious why break something that doesn't need fixing coming from someone in IT this literally makes me no longer want to use the Microsoft products
OP here. Reply for everyone interested in this thread.
Where I ended up and why.
Short story: I copy and pasted manually all old entries to Mozilla Thunderbird and then I could finally make a backup file (ics).
A little surprised being timed out for MS attention. Noting this in one reply above: The synchronization is specific to Microsoft services.
I was, halfheartedly, going to ask if using an MS "owned" email would help. I never used the "Mail" app (start menu search "mail") but I also read somewhere giving an email to the app its nearly impossible to "ungive" it. Overall copying manually seemed less hassle.
Since my last post I learned of [ics files](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar "en.wikipedia.org"). ICS goes back to 1998 and is widely supported. By Wiki "[Windows Calendar app](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_%28Windows%29#History "en.wikipedia.org")" in current form go back to Windows Vista (2006) and did support ics files. ICS file support went away with Win 8. Added back with "Windows 10 Anniversary Update"??? I've been told this thread there is no backup option and I never found one, ICS or otherwise.
How did I, step by step, get my entries back?
I found this partially helpful:
>*6. Possible Workaround:*
- *While you can’t directly connect the taskbar calendar to New Outlook, consider using the Windows Calendar app as an intermediary:*
- *Open the Windows Calendar app (search for it in the Start menu).*
- *Add your events there, and they should sync with your Gmail account (since you’ve noticed that New Outlook entries appear in your Gmail calendar).*
- *This way, you can still have a convenient way to add items via the tray icon clock calendar.*
My events came back in the CLOCK TRAY calendar but never showed up in either G-Mail or New Outlook.
**Steps:**
\* **** Found and started "Calendar" from the Start menu.
\* Adding an event in "Calendar" app and suddenly all TRAY CLOCK events were back but nota bene, not back in the "Calendar" app. TRAY CLOCK **SAVE**, **MORE DETAILS** buttons also un-greyed and active again.
\* From TRAY CLOCK selecting every date from my last Win 10 reinstall (July 2022 ~600 dates)
\* Clicking on every event in TRAY CLOCK thus starting the "Calendar" app, gave every detail of each event which I then copy pasted, one at a time, into Mozilla ThunderBird.
Note 1, as noted above I found repeating **Right-Arrow + Enter** the fastest way to go through all dates.
Note 2, If multiple events in one day, TRAY CLOCK clicking one event does not copy the others, every event must be individually clicked (opened in Calendar app)
Note 3, Calendar app seems flimsy, going back two weeks later much of Calendar app was empty again *but everything was still available accessing from the TRAY CLOCK*. So I ended up selecting the 600 dates a second time, this time copying each event to Mozilla ThunderBird.
Mozilla Thunderbird looks good for now. What I like about it beyond the immediate need of creating an ics backup:
Its very similar to Win Cal app, except better and does not go away December 31 2024.
Hi Irather,
Thanks for writing us here in Microsoft Community.
It's unfortunate that you've lost you important stuff. I understand the frustration you’re experiencing with the transition to New Outlook and the unexpected loss of your old calendar entries. Allow me to help in any way I can. Let's work on this together as a team.
Before we proceed, Irather, it's oimportant to note that Microsoft has limited resources involving data loss because they may be caused by uncontrollable factors such as file corruption. Nevertheless, I will walk you through some steps in potentially locating or recovering the data you are contacting us about. Should they still be present on your machine, I assure you that we can recover them; however, should it be otherwise, the least I could do is to provide you some pieces of advice in preventing such predicament from happening again.
I would like to ask you the following.
Let’s try the following ways to check.
I would also like to tell you that New Outlook is still in its infancy and further development and enhancement of the features, and functions are still on its way based on the initial user's feedback. You are now officially part of those preview testers in New Outlook. We encourage you to share your thoughts and feedback to our developers via the Outlook Feedback Portal · Community (microsoft.com). This way they can be aware on what points that need to be worked on with New Outlook. They might be able to look into it and find ways to include in the next updates.
These are the information and troubleshooting steps we can share with you today, Irather! If you can provide to me some screenshots or answers to our questions, that is much appreciated and a huge help.
Sincerely,
Froilance T.
Microsoft Moderator