Hello guys, I have been playing the game since launch and problems keep appearing since the moment of the slow download. I am not willing to talk about frequent crashing (despite good specs: Ryzen 2700x und 2080 Ti), but the autopilot in airliners like A320 Neo, B747 and B787 is horrible and extremely annoying, in them all!! Suddenly stops working and plane does not respond to any input given at any time, any altitude or any speed! And I am not assigning any crash simulation!!! The same applies to autothrottle! Is any one facing a similar issue? Could you manage to solve it? Thanks! UPDATE on 30.08.2020: So dears, to sum up some of the issues I met, I am putting that in short, keeping in mind I am not a true pilot, just a hobbyist simmer: first, I got relatively good specs PC (Ryzen 7 2700x, Samsung SSD, 16 Gb RAM, RTX 2080 Ti GPU). System all up to date, including BIOS, drivers and other softwares. Running on Windows 10 Pro ver. 2004. regarding game performance: the game struggles with loading speeds. Takes really really long time loading up. On 2K and 4K resolutions despite good specs and GPU there is a lot of frame drops. Opening Chrome in a separate desktop to read charts and route data into FMC for example makes the performance yet more horrible that it leads to the game continuously freezing and sometimes crashing to desktop, that the desktop becomes strangely blank and black that a reboot is then a must. Closing chrome improves the performance a little, but not much. The game freezes as well without having chrome open! Sometimes opening VFR-map, changing weather and co could end up freezing the game and even crashing it! flight control issues: starting with the horribly buggy autopilot buttons: engaging a function cannot be disengaged easily later, vertical speed is strange, that the button must be pressed twice and vertical speed must be inputted twice to force the plane into its ascent or descent. This is seen in all airliners including A320-Neo, B787 and B747. Sometimes (especially in B747) pitching the nose during level control is really horrible and too much! Have never seen all of this in true life and with true pilots! disengaging the autothrottle is catastrophic, that the throttle gets back to idle! Have never seen this as well in true life! B747 ILS is silly! After being established on the localiser, the plane suddenly and during final descent desynchronises with the localiser and G/S, that manual control is definitely a must and sometimes ending up in missed approach/overshooting runway! LNAV is generally working good. However, a strange thing happened when I flew from EHAM to EDDF with B787, where the LNAV suddenly entered a 360° loop just after the second or third waypoint, as if it is not getting recognised. Removing the affected waypoint(s) from the FMC did not help. (is it a bug?!) ATC is horrible!! A lot of bugs! For example, cannot request other approaches, once option selected, nothing happens! Being on IFR, ATC requests to change altitude is horribly silly!! For example, once approaching to finals, the ATC suddenly requests unexplained ascent to high levels (FL120 from 5000 ft as example) and just a few seconds later requests back again to descend back to 4600 ft. Just silly! I would prefer controlling levels myself! ATC does not synchronise with the high-altitude flight data given into the FMC! For example, when a flight is intended to be a high-altitude flight (FL350) with some waypoint(s) having FL370, ATC asks yet only to maintain an altitude of 7000 ft throughout the flight, as an example! That’s a silly function as well! FMC is - generally speaking - not bad, but yet primitive. Cannot change a lot of parameters (like V1, VR and V2) or other thrust or take off limits. FMC does not provide the point of descent as well! This is what I noticed so far. If you noticed some of these bugs, all of them or other bugs, please share. If you could manage to fix any of them, please share as well!

I've had the same problem with the left engine , didn't understand what was wrong at first when the plane pulled to the left on take off! I take it you had this issue from cold and dark start? I did, So I spawned on the runway, and it worked, and has worked since from cold and dark starts Ignore the above, it just happened again!!!! So annoying because you can't even restart it you have to quit the entire thing!!!!!!!!!!! Both engines started. Set crank to normal turn off APU Set thrust for taxi Left engine dies

Feels like the update didn't fix anything but made things worse. A320's left engine keeps shutting off and the 747's autopilot is still bad, giving up on flying it at the moment.

I can confirm, the update is worse and did not improve the bugs so far. The silly is now "sillier". The Auto-Pilot in B787 suddenly remembers that it is working 😂 .. it reaches 440 Kts and suddenly goes back to the assigned speed (VNAV is off). Then all of a sudden it goes back to 400 Kts and suddenly goes back to where it was 😂 .. I did manipulate none of the controls! Microsoft is really not taking our complaints serious! To be fair, I will first uninstall the game and reinstall it, then further test it and I will give you my feedback.

WOW The Airliners really are useless! Just tried again with the A320..... Since "update" Now after takeoff, climb gets so far then VS stops working..... You need to disengage autopilot, to start the climb then re-engauge AP. Then on final, then left hand displays went down, ( I didn't have failures on) They really are a waste of space. So far had no bother with most the props

Just tried the latest update and it is absolutely worse. The AP in the 787 is a bloody mystery. Doing things that would make the plane plummet unexpectedly to the ground, pre update, now don't have ANY affect at all. I was able to get the plane to climb to a certain altitude and hold but couldn't for the life of me get it to descend. I literally had to disengage AP and start to descend manually. After about 1000ft, I engaged AP again and it began to descend but stopped short and held at 3000ft when the hold was set to 2000ft. I literally have no idea what the hell is going on in this game. I feel really taken by Microsoft. I asked for a refund after 3 days only to be told that I had already "consumed" the game. Can you imagine buying any other product that is defective and being told that you can't get a refund? I don't give a damn about the graphics or what is coming in the next 10 years. I paid for a finished product, period. They sold us a Beta. Criminal!

Autopilot, Autothrottle and instrumental issues in MS Flight Simulator 2020

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Hello guys,

I have been playing the game since launch and problems keep appearing since the moment of the slow download. I am not willing to talk about frequent crashing (despite good specs: Ryzen 2700x und 2080 Ti), but the autopilot in airliners like A320 Neo, B747 and B787 is horrible and extremely annoying, in them all!! Suddenly stops working and plane does not respond to any input given at any time, any altitude or any speed! And I am not assigning any crash simulation!!!

The same applies to autothrottle!

Is any one facing a similar issue? Could you manage to solve it?

Thanks!

UPDATE on 30.08.2020:

So dears, to sum up some of the issues I met, I am putting that in short, keeping in mind I am not a true pilot, just a hobbyist simmer:

first, I got relatively good specs PC (Ryzen 7 2700x, Samsung SSD, 16 Gb RAM, RTX 2080 Ti GPU). System all up to date, including BIOS, drivers and other softwares. Running on Windows 10 Pro ver. 2004.
regarding game performance: the game struggles with loading speeds. Takes really really long time loading up. On 2K and 4K resolutions despite good specs and GPU there is a lot of frame drops. Opening Chrome in a separate desktop to read charts and route data into FMC for example makes the performance yet more horrible that it leads to the game continuously freezing and sometimes crashing to desktop, that the desktop becomes strangely blank and black that a reboot is then a must. Closing chrome improves the performance a little, but not much. The game freezes as well without having chrome open! Sometimes opening VFR-map, changing weather and co could end up freezing the game and even crashing it!
flight control issues:
starting with the horribly buggy autopilot buttons: engaging a function cannot be disengaged easily later, vertical speed is strange, that the button must be pressed twice and vertical speed must be inputted twice to force the plane into its ascent or descent. This is seen in all airliners including A320-Neo, B787 and B747. Sometimes (especially in B747) pitching the nose during level control is really horrible and too much! Have never seen all of this in true life and with true pilots!
disengaging the autothrottle is catastrophic, that the throttle gets back to idle! Have never seen this as well in true life!
B747 ILS is silly! After being established on the localiser, the plane suddenly and during final descent desynchronises with the localiser and G/S, that manual control is definitely a must and sometimes ending up in missed approach/overshooting runway!
LNAV is generally working good. However, a strange thing happened when I flew from EHAM to EDDF with B787, where the LNAV suddenly entered a 360° loop just after the second or third waypoint, as if it is not getting recognised. Removing the affected waypoint(s) from the FMC did not help. (is it a bug?!)
ATC is horrible!! A lot of bugs! For example, cannot request other approaches, once option selected, nothing happens! Being on IFR, ATC requests to change altitude is horribly silly!! For example, once approaching to finals, the ATC suddenly requests unexplained ascent to high levels (FL120 from 5000 ft as example) and just a few seconds later requests back again to descend back to 4600 ft. Just silly! I would prefer controlling levels myself! ATC does not synchronise with the high-altitude flight data given into the FMC! For example, when a flight is intended to be a high-altitude flight (FL350) with some waypoint(s) having FL370, ATC asks yet only to maintain an altitude of 7000 ft throughout the flight, as an example! That’s a silly function as well!
FMC is - generally speaking - not bad, but yet primitive. Cannot change a lot of parameters (like V1, VR and V2) or other thrust or take off limits. FMC does not provide the point of descent as well!

This is what I noticed so far. If you noticed some of these bugs, all of them or other bugs, please share. If you could manage to fix any of them, please share as well!

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2020-09-19T05:48:29+00:00

I've had the same problem with the left engine , didn't understand what was wrong at first when the plane pulled to the left on take off!

I take it you had this issue from cold and dark start? I did, So I spawned on the runway, and it worked, and has worked since from cold and dark starts

Ignore the above, it just happened again!!!!

So annoying because you can't even restart it you have to quit the entire thing!!!!!!!!!!!

Both engines started.

Set crank to normal

turn off APU

Set thrust for taxi

Left engine dies
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2020-09-19T04:32:49+00:00

Feels like the update didn't fix anything but made things worse. A320's left engine keeps shutting off and the 747's autopilot is still bad, giving up on flying it at the moment.
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2020-09-18T19:00:48+00:00

I can confirm, the update is worse and did not improve the bugs so far.

The silly is now "sillier". The Auto-Pilot in B787 suddenly remembers that it is working 😂 .. it reaches 440 Kts and suddenly goes back to the assigned speed (VNAV is off). Then all of a sudden it goes back to 400 Kts and suddenly goes back to where it was 😂 .. I did manipulate none of the controls!

Microsoft is really not taking our complaints serious!

To be fair, I will first uninstall the game and reinstall it, then further test it and I will give you my feedback.
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2020-09-18T18:04:03+00:00

WOW

The Airliners really are useless!

Just tried again with the A320..... Since "update" Now after takeoff, climb gets so far then VS stops working..... You need to disengage autopilot, to start the climb then re-engauge AP.

Then on final, then left hand displays went down, ( I didn't have failures on)

They really are a waste of space.

So far had no bother with most the props
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2020-09-18T16:07:21+00:00

Just tried the latest update and it is absolutely worse. The AP in the 787 is a bloody mystery. Doing things that would make the plane plummet unexpectedly to the ground, pre update, now don't have ANY affect at all. I was able to get the plane to climb to a certain altitude and hold but couldn't for the life of me get it to descend. I literally had to disengage AP and start to descend manually. After about 1000ft, I engaged AP again and it began to descend but stopped short and held at 3000ft when the hold was set to 2000ft. I literally have no idea what the hell is going on in this game. I feel really taken by Microsoft. I asked for a refund after 3 days only to be told that I had already "consumed" the game.

Can you imagine buying any other product that is defective and being told that you can't get a refund? I don't give a damn about the graphics or what is coming in the next 10 years. I paid for a finished product, period. They sold us a Beta. Criminal!
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