Hello guys, I have been playing the game since launch and problems keep appearing since the moment of the slow download. I am not willing to talk about frequent crashing (despite good specs: Ryzen 2700x und 2080 Ti), but the autopilot in airliners like A320 Neo, B747 and B787 is horrible and extremely annoying, in them all!! Suddenly stops working and plane does not respond to any input given at any time, any altitude or any speed! And I am not assigning any crash simulation!!! The same applies to autothrottle! Is any one facing a similar issue? Could you manage to solve it? Thanks! UPDATE on 30.08.2020: So dears, to sum up some of the issues I met, I am putting that in short, keeping in mind I am not a true pilot, just a hobbyist simmer: first, I got relatively good specs PC (Ryzen 7 2700x, Samsung SSD, 16 Gb RAM, RTX 2080 Ti GPU). System all up to date, including BIOS, drivers and other softwares. Running on Windows 10 Pro ver. 2004. regarding game performance: the game struggles with loading speeds. Takes really really long time loading up. On 2K and 4K resolutions despite good specs and GPU there is a lot of frame drops. Opening Chrome in a separate desktop to read charts and route data into FMC for example makes the performance yet more horrible that it leads to the game continuously freezing and sometimes crashing to desktop, that the desktop becomes strangely blank and black that a reboot is then a must. Closing chrome improves the performance a little, but not much. The game freezes as well without having chrome open! Sometimes opening VFR-map, changing weather and co could end up freezing the game and even crashing it! flight control issues: starting with the horribly buggy autopilot buttons: engaging a function cannot be disengaged easily later, vertical speed is strange, that the button must be pressed twice and vertical speed must be inputted twice to force the plane into its ascent or descent. This is seen in all airliners including A320-Neo, B787 and B747. Sometimes (especially in B747) pitching the nose during level control is really horrible and too much! Have never seen all of this in true life and with true pilots! disengaging the autothrottle is catastrophic, that the throttle gets back to idle! Have never seen this as well in true life! B747 ILS is silly! After being established on the localiser, the plane suddenly and during final descent desynchronises with the localiser and G/S, that manual control is definitely a must and sometimes ending up in missed approach/overshooting runway! LNAV is generally working good. However, a strange thing happened when I flew from EHAM to EDDF with B787, where the LNAV suddenly entered a 360° loop just after the second or third waypoint, as if it is not getting recognised. Removing the affected waypoint(s) from the FMC did not help. (is it a bug?!) ATC is horrible!! A lot of bugs! For example, cannot request other approaches, once option selected, nothing happens! Being on IFR, ATC requests to change altitude is horribly silly!! For example, once approaching to finals, the ATC suddenly requests unexplained ascent to high levels (FL120 from 5000 ft as example) and just a few seconds later requests back again to descend back to 4600 ft. Just silly! I would prefer controlling levels myself! ATC does not synchronise with the high-altitude flight data given into the FMC! For example, when a flight is intended to be a high-altitude flight (FL350) with some waypoint(s) having FL370, ATC asks yet only to maintain an altitude of 7000 ft throughout the flight, as an example! That’s a silly function as well! FMC is - generally speaking - not bad, but yet primitive. Cannot change a lot of parameters (like V1, VR and V2) or other thrust or take off limits. FMC does not provide the point of descent as well! This is what I noticed so far. If you noticed some of these bugs, all of them or other bugs, please share. If you could manage to fix any of them, please share as well!

Fair enough? You think its fair that they took your money in exchange for a product that is not yet done? This practice didn't exist 10 years ago. But now companies think its ok to make paying customers part of their beta program. Fair would be letting me try a demo before making up my mind on weather or not I wanted to exchange money for the product. This practice should be illegal and I think many feel the same. Difference is this is far more complex than other "games" that come out and it's more of a platform for the next 10 years. Nothing about it is really "game breaking". The world, sim, weather, scenery, airports, everything works minus a few minor issues I've come across. Just because a few features on the airliners are not study level (if you were expecting this, then this is unrealistic) and there are a few bugs with certain aircraft only doesn't mean it's a beta product - I mean I can see why you would think that if they were the only planes you use. I have almost zero issues while flying GA aircraft, yes some of the airliners have issues but these have far more complexity/systems and the base aircrafts are far better than what you get in other sims. Most of the issues can be worked around - I've flown plenty of long haul flights with the 787 10hrs+ and numerous smaller flights with the A320neo. I suppose I'm being a bit more accepting of this because this is such an ambitious undertaking, and with the pandemic it's been even more difficult to develop games than it already is which I'm sure can be attributed to the issues. I've watched numerous videos with the developers, Q&A streams and it's obvious the developers are passionate about this so I'm confident the issues will be fixed over time.

Fair enough? You think its fair that they took your money in exchange for a product that is not yet done? This practice didn't exist 10 years ago. But now companies think its ok to make paying customers part of their beta program. Fair would be letting me try a demo before making up my mind on weather or not I wanted to exchange money for the product. This practice should be illegal and I think many feel the same.

Your reply is like trying to deviate from the true and actual problem, which is releasing a beta or even alpha-stage game full of bugs that is not yet ready to use, which gives purchasers the full right to ask for a refund, and deviate that towards a deceiving idea that the game is actually working but the simmer is not knowing to use it! In short, the game is full of silly, really silly bugs, that should not be released with! Alpha testers reported many of those bugs before, yet the game was released without fixing them! Fair enough, however I also remember every other Flight Simulator game releasing with similar issues at launch so I don't think this is anything new. There is nothing that is there that can't be fixed over time. Personally I think the default aircrafts and systems are far better than what you get as stock compared to other sims.

There are problems but a lot of problems are from lack of understanding of the aircraft. You can't dead stick the airbus because auto throttle automatically turns on to prevent stall. Other auto thrust issues people are having with the a320 is from having the thrust levers in the wrong position. I myself am not a pilot, yet I do not lack the whole understanding of the aircrafts as I have been simming since old and new age sims like FS2004, FSX and X-Plane I am familiar at least with A320 and B747, as I have been simming with them a lot, from freely flying to planned flying beginning from dark and cold using FMS planning of waypoints, LNAV, VNAV and even simulating alternatives. I have been using many websites to do planning like SimBrief, even I learned to calculate fuel needs and reserve based even on CI (cost index) and used charts of departures, arrivals, approaches, etc, although I am not a pilot! It is not necessarily that you have better knowledge than others and it is not necessarily to be a true pilot to be able to sim! Your reply is like trying to deviate from the true and actual problem, which is releasing a beta or even alpha-stage game full of bugs that is not yet ready to use, which gives purchasers the full right to ask for a refund, and deviate that towards a deceiving idea that the game is actually working but the simmer is not knowing to use it! In short, the game is full of silly, really silly bugs, that should not be released with! Alpha testers reported many of those bugs before, yet the game was released without fixing them!

Hey mate, There is a known workaround for this issue as I have sometimes come across it. Open the ATC window by pressing scroll lock, resize it and close it. You'll be able to click on the buttons again. Asobo/MS are aware of this issue and I suspect a fix will be deployed this month for it. Awesome!............ This does my nut in

Autopilot, Autothrottle and instrumental issues in MS Flight Simulator 2020

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Hello guys,

I have been playing the game since launch and problems keep appearing since the moment of the slow download. I am not willing to talk about frequent crashing (despite good specs: Ryzen 2700x und 2080 Ti), but the autopilot in airliners like A320 Neo, B747 and B787 is horrible and extremely annoying, in them all!! Suddenly stops working and plane does not respond to any input given at any time, any altitude or any speed! And I am not assigning any crash simulation!!!

The same applies to autothrottle!

Is any one facing a similar issue? Could you manage to solve it?

Thanks!

UPDATE on 30.08.2020:

So dears, to sum up some of the issues I met, I am putting that in short, keeping in mind I am not a true pilot, just a hobbyist simmer:

first, I got relatively good specs PC (Ryzen 7 2700x, Samsung SSD, 16 Gb RAM, RTX 2080 Ti GPU). System all up to date, including BIOS, drivers and other softwares. Running on Windows 10 Pro ver. 2004.
regarding game performance: the game struggles with loading speeds. Takes really really long time loading up. On 2K and 4K resolutions despite good specs and GPU there is a lot of frame drops. Opening Chrome in a separate desktop to read charts and route data into FMC for example makes the performance yet more horrible that it leads to the game continuously freezing and sometimes crashing to desktop, that the desktop becomes strangely blank and black that a reboot is then a must. Closing chrome improves the performance a little, but not much. The game freezes as well without having chrome open! Sometimes opening VFR-map, changing weather and co could end up freezing the game and even crashing it!
flight control issues:
starting with the horribly buggy autopilot buttons: engaging a function cannot be disengaged easily later, vertical speed is strange, that the button must be pressed twice and vertical speed must be inputted twice to force the plane into its ascent or descent. This is seen in all airliners including A320-Neo, B787 and B747. Sometimes (especially in B747) pitching the nose during level control is really horrible and too much! Have never seen all of this in true life and with true pilots!
disengaging the autothrottle is catastrophic, that the throttle gets back to idle! Have never seen this as well in true life!
B747 ILS is silly! After being established on the localiser, the plane suddenly and during final descent desynchronises with the localiser and G/S, that manual control is definitely a must and sometimes ending up in missed approach/overshooting runway!
LNAV is generally working good. However, a strange thing happened when I flew from EHAM to EDDF with B787, where the LNAV suddenly entered a 360° loop just after the second or third waypoint, as if it is not getting recognised. Removing the affected waypoint(s) from the FMC did not help. (is it a bug?!)
ATC is horrible!! A lot of bugs! For example, cannot request other approaches, once option selected, nothing happens! Being on IFR, ATC requests to change altitude is horribly silly!! For example, once approaching to finals, the ATC suddenly requests unexplained ascent to high levels (FL120 from 5000 ft as example) and just a few seconds later requests back again to descend back to 4600 ft. Just silly! I would prefer controlling levels myself! ATC does not synchronise with the high-altitude flight data given into the FMC! For example, when a flight is intended to be a high-altitude flight (FL350) with some waypoint(s) having FL370, ATC asks yet only to maintain an altitude of 7000 ft throughout the flight, as an example! That’s a silly function as well!
FMC is - generally speaking - not bad, but yet primitive. Cannot change a lot of parameters (like V1, VR and V2) or other thrust or take off limits. FMC does not provide the point of descent as well!

This is what I noticed so far. If you noticed some of these bugs, all of them or other bugs, please share. If you could manage to fix any of them, please share as well!

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2020-09-09T01:45:45+00:00

Fair enough? You think its fair that they took your money in exchange for a product that is not yet done? This practice didn't exist 10 years ago. But now companies think its ok to make paying customers part of their beta program. Fair would be letting me try a demo before making up my mind on weather or not I wanted to exchange money for the product. This practice should be illegal and I think many feel the same.

Difference is this is far more complex than other "games" that come out and it's more of a platform for the next 10 years. Nothing about it is really "game breaking". The world, sim, weather, scenery, airports, everything works minus a few minor issues I've come across. Just because a few features on the airliners are not study level (if you were expecting this, then this is unrealistic) and there are a few bugs with certain aircraft only doesn't mean it's a beta product - I mean I can see why you would think that if they were the only planes you use. I have almost zero issues while flying GA aircraft, yes some of the airliners have issues but these have far more complexity/systems and the base aircrafts are far better than what you get in other sims. Most of the issues can be worked around - I've flown plenty of long haul flights with the 787 10hrs+ and numerous smaller flights with the A320neo.

I suppose I'm being a bit more accepting of this because this is such an ambitious undertaking, and with the pandemic it's been even more difficult to develop games than it already is which I'm sure can be attributed to the issues. I've watched numerous videos with the developers, Q&A streams and it's obvious the developers are passionate about this so I'm confident the issues will be fixed over time.
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2020-09-08T15:32:43+00:00

Fair enough? You think its fair that they took your money in exchange for a product that is not yet done? This practice didn't exist 10 years ago. But now companies think its ok to make paying customers part of their beta program. Fair would be letting me try a demo before making up my mind on weather or not I wanted to exchange money for the product. This practice should be illegal and I think many feel the same.
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2020-09-08T14:54:48+00:00

Your reply is like trying to deviate from the true and actual problem, which is releasing a beta or even alpha-stage game full of bugs that is not yet ready to use, which gives purchasers the full right to ask for a refund, and deviate that towards a deceiving idea that the game is actually working but the simmer is not knowing to use it!

In short, the game is full of silly, really silly bugs, that should not be released with! Alpha testers reported many of those bugs before, yet the game was released without fixing them!

Fair enough, however I also remember every other Flight Simulator game releasing with similar issues at launch so I don't think this is anything new. There is nothing that is there that can't be fixed over time.

Personally I think the default aircrafts and systems are far better than what you get as stock compared to other sims.
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2020-09-08T14:46:55+00:00

There are problems but a lot of problems are from lack of understanding of the aircraft. You can't dead stick the airbus because auto throttle automatically turns on to prevent stall. Other auto thrust issues people are having with the a320 is from having the thrust levers in the wrong position.

I myself am not a pilot, yet I do not lack the whole understanding of the aircrafts as I have been simming since old and new age sims like FS2004, FSX and X-Plane

I am familiar at least with A320 and B747, as I have been simming with them a lot, from freely flying to planned flying beginning from dark and cold using FMS planning of waypoints, LNAV, VNAV and even simulating alternatives. I have been using many websites to do planning like SimBrief, even I learned to calculate fuel needs and reserve based even on CI (cost index) and used charts of departures, arrivals, approaches, etc, although I am not a pilot! It is not necessarily that you have better knowledge than others and it is not necessarily to be a true pilot to be able to sim!

Your reply is like trying to deviate from the true and actual problem, which is releasing a beta or even alpha-stage game full of bugs that is not yet ready to use, which gives purchasers the full right to ask for a refund, and deviate that towards a deceiving idea that the game is actually working but the simmer is not knowing to use it!

In short, the game is full of silly, really silly bugs, that should not be released with! Alpha testers reported many of those bugs before, yet the game was released without fixing them!
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2020-09-08T14:46:49+00:00

Hey mate,

There is a known workaround for this issue as I have sometimes come across it. Open the ATC window by pressing scroll lock, resize it and close it. You'll be able to click on the buttons again.

Asobo/MS are aware of this issue and I suspect a fix will be deployed this month for it.

Awesome!............ This does my nut in
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