Homegroup removed! How to get network sharing work with Windows 10 v1803.

Anonymous
2018-05-11T04:03:57+00:00

Here is short description how I get my network sharing work with Windows 10 v1803.

(I haven't never use Homegroup so I start directly from step 2.)

  1. Only for those PC's which are still using Windows 10 v1709 or older:

    Disconnect from non-existing Homegroup if you have used it.

2.1. All PC's: Check Network profile and Network discovery and Share settings

Sometimes this selection to change between Private and Public network profile is missing from Settings / Networks page. In that case profile must change by PowerShell. Right Click Windows Icon (Start button) and open PowerShell (Admin) and use following commands to get interface index number and change profile to Private (or Public):

Get-NetConnectionProfile

Set-NetConnectionProfile -InterfaceIndex <index number> -NetworkCategory Private

2.2. All PC's: Check Network Discovery and Share settings

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  1. All PC's: Set Start type to Automatic and start following services that allow PC's to be visible on Network. (Reboot.)

   Push Win Key and type "Services", locate these services.

   - Function Discovery Provider Host

   - Function Discovery Resource Publication

   - SSDP Discovery

  • UPnP Device Host

  1. Setting shares.

4.1. Check your current shares.

Open file explorer and type \localhost to address bar to see what shares are made in this computer.

![](https://learn-attachment.microsoft.com/api/attachments/d9a66593-0cd1-499b-908f-36a6854f27c1?platform=QnA

4.2. Create new share (here I use folder "Test"). 

(Setting "Turn on sharing so anyone …" in Step 2.2.  make share for folders in C:\Users automatic.)

Folder is now shared and Network share path is: \PCNAME\Test

4.3. Safe way to share folders.

Create user account to all users on your network to whom you want to give access to shared resources.

Use same user ID and password which they have on their own computers.

Right click "Test" and open Properties and select Security tab to see current settings.

Default security settings are shown in next picture.

Those settings allow access to shared folder(s) only for those users who have user ID on that computer.

4.4.  Sharing folder "Test" to Everyone" (Very unsafe setting! Think carefully do you need to select this!)

If you want that everyone have access to that share then go to Security tab and:

  • When back to Permissions dialog select which rights you want to give to "Everyone".

Now anyone on your home network should have access to shared folders without credentials or having user account on your computer.

  1. Now when click Network on File Explorer all your PC's should be visible in Computer and Network sections.

This should be cover the essentials to sharing your data over local network. This share is not limited to C:\Users folder, every folder can be handled like shown in steps 4.

Now your PC's should visible, but if not then try to reset all network settings:

Go to Settings / Network & Internet / Status, scroll down to find "Network reset, on next window click "Reset  Now" button.

It will takes about 5 min to perform this reset and then PC reboot automatic.

When you sing in first time you get notification something like "Do you want your PC to be access by other computers", click Yes for that.

If you get error message "Windows cannot access \PC_NAME" when you try to connect shared folders then continue to step 6.

  1. There is some bug on Windows 10 1803 and because of that PC's can't always connect to each other by Name.

If you get error "\PCNAME path not found" you can solve this by adding your PC's and IP-addresses to hosts file.

6.1 New routers (or modems) may have feature to remember which IP-addresses are assign to each device, but with older routers (or modems) you have to check that your router or modem is set give predefined IP-addresses linked to each PC's MAC-address.

This way PC's will get same IP-address every time when it ask IP-address form router (or modem) DHCP-server.

There should be some kind of list of PC names with MAC addresses and given IP-addresses of each connected PC. 

Picture show that list on my router. In my case with old router I had to select manual assignment  in each line. 

6.2. Add all PC's IP-addresses and Names to hosts file (C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts). 

You can check your IP-address and PC's name by opening command prompt (CMD)

For IP-address type command: ipconfig you get line like this: IPv4 Address ………. 192.168.100.101

For PC name type command:  hostname

Write down IP-address and Name of each PC and add those to that hosts file.

To edit copy hosts file to some another location, right click it and use notepad to edit and save it. Replace original file with edited file. Because hosts file is located on system folder replace will ask administrators rights to perform it.

localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.

# 127.0.0.1             localhost

# ::1                        localhost

192.168.100.101  PC1   # Ethernet  

   192.168.100.102  PC2   # Ethernet

   192.168.100.202  PC2   # Wi-Fi

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-11-29T17:18:36+00:00

    I am still confounded by this mess. I have done everything I found in answers to no avail. In fact, now PC A cannot open folders on PC B, which it could do before I changed the services to automatic.

    Changed above service to automatic

    I put the IP addresses in host.

    Gave rights to main folders on both PC's to everyone plus both administrators and all users (2 of them)

    Got rid of all references to HomegroupUsers. There is no homegroup.

    Corrected passwords in Credentials

    rebooted the router and both PC's multiple times

    Now get path not found when opening the other Network PC in File Manager (all hardwired to Cisco router). Both PC's appear in Network but only the local one will open. NAS drive connected to the router is addressable as a mapped drive from both PC's.

    Also can no longer print from PC B to printer on PC A. ARRGGH!

    I am at a complete loss. Any ideas?

    Thanks,

    Paul

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  2. Anonymous
    2018-11-21T12:39:03+00:00

    Is there any way to get the name resolution working without having to update hosts file. I have a B&B with file server hosting things for guests (movies, tunes, files, photos, maps etc.) Which no longer works. My personal computer and personal server work fine. Name resolution all that works great. 3rd pc set up as public server (On private network... I'm only calling it "public server" to identify it here. (note, ALL THREE COMPUTERS HAVE SAME SETTINGS, I'VE VERIFIED THIS OVER AND OVER.. this includes services, windows extra features, network share settings, user accounts, security profile, firewall.. literally everything except the personal files) 

    Okay, So upon power up everything works fine, I can see and access files on public server, private server. Once I remote desktop or log into it locally name resolution stops working almost as soon as you hit enter from account login screen. No longer able to access via "Network" places icon, or typing computer name into RDC dialog box, I have to use the IP address every time. IF i reboot the public server, everything works fine again until its logged into. Heres the catch, I paid for windows. I want it to work as it should. Would you drive your car everywhere in reverse because first gear never worked after an oil change... NO you wouldn't.. 

    AS FOR HOSTS FILE... I can't be asking every guest to go into their settings and do this... some of them are doing great just to get a web browser open. 

    Any advice with the new information (And I urge you to test yourselves and let me know if you can duplicate.) the whole "not logged into yet... it'll work" part of the bug I found. Thanks!

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  3. Anonymous
    2018-11-21T07:52:17+00:00

    the "Function Discovery Resource Publication" was what was causing my problem cause couldnt see the share from the other PC. it was set to manual and setting to automatic made it appear. Then I had to add a credential. thank you, spent way too many hours on this.  First time having to worry about sharing from this PC since I installed windows 19 as wife got a laptop after not having one for a couple years.

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  4. Anonymous
    2018-11-17T18:07:31+00:00

    'Discovery on' not required if you have a router with a usb port that can 'share' your drive.

    Simply plug in the drive to the router's usb port and then on your 'client' laptop/desktop click on 'This PC' and in the address field type \192.168.1.1 and hit the Enter key.  (some routers are \192.168.2.1),

    Normally you get access to the whole drive off a router, irregardless of which folders were tagged as shared.

    To share a hard drive off a 'host' computer not much harder, set a static ip address on the host computer and then use that address on any 'client' computer on the lan (e.g., \192.168.12').

    Map the shared drive so you don't have to repeat the above.

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  5. Anonymous
    2018-11-12T16:42:25+00:00

    I want to just add a note about setting permissions. I have 2 pc's both with win 10 1803. Thanks to Pauli, I finally managed to get them both to 'see' the network shares but I found that I no longer had permission to view them. I discovered that by right-clicking a folder (in Explorer) and selecting: Give access to ... Specific People, I could choose everyone from the dropdown. On the other computer I could then access the folder without any problem. However, I have a drive called '4TBSeagate1' and found that I couldn't do the same thing with a drive! The only solution I could come up with was to create a new folder in the drive called 'MainStore' and then cut'n'paste all the other folders into it (a fairly quick operation). The 'give access to' as before. No idea why it works but it seems to .. I'm now waiting for another win 10 'Downgrade' to appear!!

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