They rushed these patches out to try to patch up the security holes but we need stable tested updates, ,which unfortunately may be a big trial and error period.. I wonder if new computers will be already patched up. I am thinking on upgrading my Windows laptop this year but may hold off for another year in light of all these problems. My Chromebook is already completely patched but I fear I may need to buy a new phone as I don't think Samsung will push an update to mine that is only a few years old. La da da da de.
Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities Intel (and AMD) Chip Bug
A lot of noise on the internet, after Intel confirm that chips have a bug:
https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-responds-to-security-research-findings/
This post is to bring some light on this.
1- Intel says is not only their chips affected
2- PCID (Process-Context Identifiers), a chip feature, has a bug that allow apps (malware) to read data
3- Process-context identifiers (PCIDs) are a facility by which a logical processor may cache information for multiple linear-address spaces. The processor may retain cached information when software switches to a different linear address space with a different PCID.
4- Macintosh and Linux OS are also affected.
Rumors:
1- If you have Haswell (4th-gen) or newer, PCID (Process-Context Identifiers) is enabled.
2- After apply the patch, performance is going to be slower on newer CPU. Around 5 to 10%.
2- Still if you have older CPU, performance will be affected worse than newer CPUs.
3- To be affected you must have a OS 64 bits. {Correction: 32bits has vulnerability, MS still working on this)
Just as I'm writing this, Linus Torvalds and his team are working on this too:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/2/703
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20180102222354.qikjmf7dvnjgbkxe%40alap3.anarazel.de
Can we get a word from Microsoft?
For windows, What patch is going to address this? (Update: Patch links and KB are listed on postings)
Is that is going to be on the Montly Rollup and/or Security only patches? (Update: See the links posted)
If performance is going to suffer, can we be able to uninstall such patch? (Update: Microsoft published a document about it, See the links posted)
Please, any info will be appreciated.
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2018-01-17T22:27:06+00:00 Well, It looks like my VMware VDI Infrastructure will NOT be getting the patches, simply due to the performance hit it will take. I will have to use other means to prevent them from getting exploited.
On a positive note though, I did update the firmware for my dell laptops, and confirmed it patched the hardware vuln. Steve Gibson @ Gibson research has developed a tool to test for these vulnerabilities, and I trust him far above others.
IE thinks the site has Malware, which it most certainly does not, so just use a different browser to download if you are interested. The URL is https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm. It will check your system against Spectre and Meltdown and give you excellent specifics to help remediate if needed, along with good details to explain why your OK if that's the case.
I ran the tool before I patched the OS, then after, then again before firmware updates, and after, and it tracked everything from start to finish.
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Anonymous
2018-01-17T23:29:37+00:00 MICROSOFT KB KB4056892 Windows 10 v1709 seems to be the patch that covers this issue and I checked and see that I have that successfully downloaded
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Anonymous
2018-01-18T01:25:00+00:00 There is also new updates released by Microsoft TODAY!
KB4057144
https://support.microsoft.com/en-hk/help/4057144/windows-10-update-kb4057144
Some are well need fixes, like prevent AMD devices going BSOD, and also fix the symantec SEP System tray icon warnings.
Can anyone confirm this? Looks like we are seeing the light after all this?
As always, Happy patching!!
Please share your findings.
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Anonymous
2018-01-18T03:09:55+00:00 I have used the tools from grc for a long time. Very good tools. I am going to download the tool you talked about.
My Dell has the newest BIOS to patch the hardware side and I have Microsoft patch .I am totally stupified that I.E. thinks the site has malware. I am not sure yet how to run a firmware patch for the intel me when it becomes available. My other laptop has the AMT and right now I just have it completely disconnected from the internet while I wait for the patches. It is an acer and I will never buy another acer as long as I live.
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I got the GRC tool and I downloaded it with Edge and had no problem with screen filter so they must have fixed that. I am delighted to know my system is fully patched. Yay. What a great little tool. Easy to use and results easy to understand. I am going to plug in my Acer and download it tomorrow to see what I have left to do on it. I recommend the program to everyone. Thanks for the tip on the tool.