Windows Update Doesn't Work even with the SOLUTION

Anonymous
2016-10-23T00:11:52+00:00

FIRST. If Windows Update is not working or taking far too long (more than 15 to 30 minutes) try the Solution described in the thread at

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/windows-7-update-solution/f39a65fa-9d10-42e7-9bc0-7f5096b36d0c

If after trying this the problem persists, then follow these directions to first reset Windows Update.

This is a bit technical, but if you can follow it, I think it will work for you.  I work on a lot of computers and this works for me.

I emphasize that for this to work, you must follow exactlyas this describes.

There are two main types of Windows 7 installations: 32 bit or 64 bit.  You need to know what is installed in your computer.  Click the Start globe, type system in the box. Choose System information in the list.  The techie shorthand for 32 bit is x86 and for 64 bit is x64

  1. Start Windows Update and change the Setting to Never check for updates.  Restart.  When you do leave the setting at NEVER, Windows Update will no longer be automatic.  From this point onwards, you are responsible for starting and installing updates.  We recommend you do that a few days following the 2nd Tuesday each month.
  2. The process starts by ensuring that there is nothing running that will prevent the update from working properly.  Click on the Start globe and type services into the text box.  Click on Services in the list that pops up.  In the window that then pops up (its alphabetic), find Windows Update.  Right-click on it (left-click if your mouse is set for left-handers) and choose Stop.

Now, you are going to reset Windows Update components:

Start, All Programs, Accessories, Right-click on Command prompt, Choose Run as administrator, OK.  Type the following in the black box:

  1. net stop wuauserv
  2. net stop cryptSvc
  3. net stop bits
  4. net stop msiserver
  5. ren C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old
  6. ren C:\Windows\System32\catroot2 catroot2.old
  7. net start wuauserv
  8. net start cryptSvc
  9. net start bits
  10. net start msiserver
  11. Exit

Tip: Instead of typing each line, you can select the text in each line in the list by high-lighting it, right-click, choose Copy from the pop-up menu.  In the black window, Right-click anywhere, choose Paste from the pop-up menu, Enter.

If steps 5 or 6 do not allow the operation, go back and click on the Start globe and type services into the text box.  Click on Services in the list that pops up.  In the window that then pops up (its alphabetic), find Windows Update.  Right-click on it (left-click if your mouse is set for left-handers) and choose Stop.  It may have re-started itself.

If steps 5 and 6 report that the file already exists, then substitute SoftwareDistribution.old2 for SoftwareDistribution.old, and catroot2 catroot2.old2 for catroot2 catroot2.old

This procedure will erase the list you would see in "View Update history" that you access in the Windows Update window.  It will NOT erase the "View Installed Updates" you access through the Control Panel.

You are now going to download and install either one or two updates manually.  In most cases only the first (KB3172605) of these is needed.  If that produces a result that says the update is not appropriate for you computer, you need to first install the 2nd of these (KB3020369), then install the first (KB3172605).  Choose the one that is for your machine — 32 bit (X86) or 64 bit (X64).

KB3138612 :

32 bit

 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=51208

64 bit

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=51212

KB3020369:

32 bit

https://download.microsoft.com/download/C/0/8/C0823F43-BFE9-4147-9B0A-35769CBBE6B0/Windows6.1-KB3020369-x86.msu

64 bit

https://download.microsoft.com/download/5/D/0/5D0821EB-A92D-4CA2-9020-EC41D56B074F/Windows6.1-KB3020369-x64.msu

After restarting your computer, wait about 10 minutes until Windows Update completes its tasks.  Do not use the computer for any other purpose during this wait period.

Start Windows Update.  It will take only a few minutes to come up with a list and download the updates you select.  The process is quite normal as it always was from this point onward.

If your computer has not been updated for a long time, it may take longer.

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-01-06T17:27:52+00:00

    Sometimes something does go wrong and when I see the 0x80041321 (usually when looking at Backup/Restore) the first question to ask is:

    Did you upgrade to Windows 10 and revert back to Windows 7?

    The error 0x80041321 is not something you will see when Windows Update has a problem - those errors are different.

    The CodePlex solution usually works for most of the Scheduled Tasks but it only works on the ones that come with Windows 7 SP1 so that may leave some unfixed that might have been installed by other things (Google, Firefox, Chrome, Adobe...).  Those you will have to fix by hand or uninstall/reinstall the apps to fix them.

    There are about 80 Windows 7 SP1 Tasks that could be afflicted so if they all don't get fixed it could be that something else is very wrong.

    If it was my system I would bite the bullet and reinstall from scratch so I wouldn't be wondering about what else I'm going to have to find later that is broken.

    For these Windows Updates cases that are troublesome, that might be a good question to ask - did you go 7->10->7?

    If they have done that, a rudimentary quick test is to see it Task Scheduler will open without complaining.  It is doesn't complain with a lot of task corrupt messages that is a good sign.  If it does complain that is a bad sign.

    Remember that folks "trust" that the process from MS is going to work - sometimes it does or it looks like it worked and you only find out later when trying to look at something like Backup and Restore that something is wrong.

    You might need to politely discharge those case where WU doesn't work and you can't make it work if there is also a 7->10->7 in the mix (and suggest a reinstall is the best idea).

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  2. Anonymous
    2017-01-06T15:27:00+00:00

    ElderN, what do your recommend to solve this problem 7 to 10 to 7?  I have seen numerous complex issues pop up.  My conclusions have been that something goes wrong with the "reversion" process, and that the best sure way to solve them is to do a clean re-install.  Am I on the right track?

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  3. Anonymous
    2017-01-06T11:47:24+00:00

    When you understand the problem and what has happened then you can understand why so many of the other suggestions for things to try will not work - and Windows Update will not fix that problem.

    Whomever suggested Windows Update as a solution to the Task Scheduler issue doesn't understand the problem.

    In my other reply I hint that in addition to the Task Scheduler problem there might be other fall out from the 7 to 10 back to 7 transition and there might be other problems with your system that you don't know about yet and a clean install is really the only way to be sure that your system is straightened out.   Some of the afflicted Windows 7 tasks might be pretty important if you want your system to be healthy.

    Every time a new and often goofy issue comes up you will always be wondering if it has something to do with that conversion process.  Hmmm...

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  4. Anonymous
    2017-01-06T11:06:12+00:00

    yeah I tried djjin codeplex downloads/repair program and it fixed like 20/100 errors but still no backup or system image working. and posted somewhere there and I was suggested to try windows update lol, thus why I'm giving this forum a try.  but its looking bleek to say the least :P, not to mention how many tries it took me to finally get my two 7970s to work in crossfire, would prefer to not have to resintall windows/transfer files and re-go through that process/ordeal with video cards as I've finally got them working in crossfire well with older Radeon drivers.. such bad luck with this build.

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  5. Anonymous
    2017-01-06T10:42:16+00:00

    Task Scheduler errors after upgrading to Windows 10 and reverting back to Windows 7 is a known problem.

    The first time folks seem to notice that problem is when they attempt to run Windows Backup and Restore and see something like this:

    In this topic locate the rely about in the middle of page 2 from ElderN:

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/backup-problems-after-installinguninstalling/f2969a14-e746-455c-bb8a-07895cc41483?page=2

    If you don't want to waste your time skip all the other ideas and advice.  I can assure you with 100% certainty that none of the advice from the Microsoft engaged alleged "experts" will help with that problem.

    If you need to please start a new topic/question/thread about the Task Scheduler issue since it has nothing to do with Windows Update problems.

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