Windows 7 Update Problems? Read this first.

Anonymous
2016-07-29T13:38:24+00:00

There are now two discussions for Windows Update problems.

This original one which still works fine and a new Advanced Users Discussion.

The Advanced Users Discussion may be more appealing to users that are comfortable maneuvering around some more advanced areas of Windows, those already familiar with downloading and installing Windows updates or have an aversion to using Internet Explorer.  No fancy words or screen shots for those users that don't need them:

Click here for the Advanced Users Discussion

Keep reading for the original discussion about Windows Update problems.

The original method of downloading the two Microsoft updates has gotten unreliable and pushed down to the bottom of this page separated by a row of @@@@@ signs.

The new method involves downloading some updates from the Microsoft Update Catalog and seems more reliable but you must use Internet Explorer to download the updates.  If you visit the Microsoft Update Catalog with another browser these downloads will not work.

Here is what we have so far for the process using Internet Explorer to get the downloads needed:

You may have better luck using the Microsoft Update Catalog but that will require using Internet Explorer.

If IE is not your default browser you can't just click on and open these links or your default browser will open and you won't be able to get the Update Catalog to work.

These are not things to "try".  These are things to "do".

Do this:

Open Control Panel and change the View to Small icons so you can see things easier (some folks are shocked when they see all the stuff on this screen!):

Choose Windows Update, Change Settings and make a note of the current setting because you need to change them.

Make these adjustments and click OK to save the changes:

Restart your system for the changes to take effect. 

That adjustment will immediately stop any kind of background update activity that might be stuck (causing your system to run slow) and allow you to manually download two other updates you need to fix the other Windows Update issues.

To access the Microsoft Update Catalog you must use Internet Explorer.

Open Internet Explorer and copy and paste this URL into the address bar:

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/home.aspx

When using the Update Catalog you can search for the updates and then add them to your "basket" and then when the two updates are in your basket you can download the contents of your basket (two updates) to your desktop or someplace you can find them and then install them.

The first update to search for is KB3020369:

Click the Add button to add the appropriate update (32 or 64 bit) to your basket and you will see that your basket now has one item:

Then search for the second update KB3172605:

Click the Add button to add the appropriate update (32 or 64 bit) to your basket and you will see that your basket now has two items:

Now you are ready to download the contents of your basket which should have 2 items in it:

Click view basket:

Then click the Download button:

Then choose the location folder for the downloads (your desktop or someplace you can find them):

Click OK to start the download process and wait for the two updates to download.

Locate and double click the package for KB3020369 to launch the installer and let it complete. 

If the update is already installed you will see this (not a problem):

Restart your system so the update will take effect.

Locate and double click the package for KB3172605 to launch the installer and let it complete. 

Restart your system, the go back to Control Panel, Windows Update and choose to Check for Updates:

Wait patiently...  The Microsoft servers are also very busy after Patch Tuesday (the second Tuesday of every month) and several days after that as millions of systems around the world are being updated.

When your system is fully updated you can delete the files you downloaded.

Many experienced troubleshooters and technicians suggest leaving the Windows update settings the way they are now - to never check for any updates:

That doesn't mean you will never get updates or cannot get updates - it means instead of Microsoft deciding what updates get applied to your system, you are in control of the update process and you can decide when to check for updates, review the updates and you can decide which updates you want or need to apply to your system.

Being able to review the updates before installing them will allow you to hide any updates you don't want such as hardware driver updates (video, audio, network).  Microsoft does not know what the best hardware drivers are for your system and will often send driver updates that will cause your system to malfunction or not work at all.

Since you are now in control of Windows Updates you will have to check periodically for updates yourself but that is really the best way to be sure you don't get some updates that will cause your system to malfunction.

Microsoft issues a batch of updates the second Tuesday of every month (Patch Tuesday) so you should at least check once a month for updates.  Of course now that Windows Update is behaving you can check as often as you want.

If you don't like the idea of being in control of your system updates you can set the settings back to the way they were in the beginning.

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Old Instructions

I hope to pull what I think are the best ideas and procedures to address Windows Update issues (not working, hung up, taking too long, nothing happens, etc., etc., etc.).

Taking input from several sources and putting it all in one place with enough illustrations to be easy to understand and will work for new/fresh/reinstalls of Windows 7 and also work for already installed systems.

Please take a look at it and reply to the discussion with any changes and I can just change the top part.

Then when we see a "Windows Update isn't working, taking too long, broken, nothing happens, etc." we can refer to the discussion and it that doesn't work we can adjust the discussion so it does work.  Then everything is in one place and we will all deliver a consistent message that will hopefully work for everybody.

These are not things to "try".  These are things to "do".

Do this:

Open Control Panel and change the View to Small icons so you can see things easier (some folks are shocked when they see all the stuff on this screen!):

Choose Windows Update, Change Settings and make a note of the current setting because you need to change them.

Make these adjustments and click OK to save the changes:

Restart your system for the changes to take effect. 

That adjustment will immediately stop any kind of background update activity that might be stuck (causing your system to run slow) and allow you to manually download two other updates you need to fix the other Windows Update issues.

If your installation is new or a reinstall you need to start by installing KB3020369:

April 2015 servicing stack update for Windows 7

If you already have KB3020369 installed you won't be able to install it twice so go ahead and visit this link to be sure:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3020369

If your system is 32-bit download the x86 package.

If your system is 64-bit download the x64 package.

Choose to download the correct package for your system and save the file to someplace you can find it - like your desktop.

Double click the package you downloaded to launch the installer and let it complete. 

If the update is already installed you will see this (not a problem):

Restart your system so the update will take effect.

Next visit this link and choose to install KB3172605:

July 2016 update rollup for Windows 7

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605

If your system is 32-bit download the x86 package.

If your system is 64-bit download the x64 package.

Choose to download the correct package for your system and save the file to someplace you can find it - like your desktop.

Double click the package you downloaded to launch the installer and let it complete.

Restart your system, the go back to Control Panel, Windows Update and choose to Check for Updates:

Wait patiently...  Remember that these are the last hours to get the Windows 10 upgrade for free so the Microsoft servers are probably taking a pounding.  The Microsoft servers are also very busy on Patch Tuesday (the second Tuesday of every month) and several days after that as millions of systems around the world are being updated.

When your system is fully updated you can delete the files you downloaded.

Many experienced troubleshooters and technicians suggest leaving the Windows update settings the way they are now - to never check for any updates:

That doesn't mean you will never get updates or cannot get updates - it means instead of Microsoft deciding what updates get applied to your system, you are in control of the update process and you can decide when to check for updates, review the updates and you can decide which updates you want or need to apply to your system.

Being able to review the updates before installing them will allow you to hide any updates you don't want such as hardware driver updates (video, audio, network).  Microsoft does not know what the best hardware drivers are for your system and will often send driver updates that will cause your system to malfunction or not work at all.

Since you are now in control of Windows Updates you will have to check periodically for updates yourself but that is really the best way to be sure you don't get some updates that will cause your system to malfunction.

Microsoft issues a batch of updates the second Tuesday of every month (Patch Tuesday) so you should at least check once a month for updates.  Of course now that Windows Update is behaving you can check as often as you want.

If you don't like the idea of being in control of your system updates you can set the settings back to the way they were in the beginning.

Reply to this discussion if there are things missing or ideas how to make it easier to follow understand.

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-01-02T04:30:32+00:00

    Sounds so familiar. MS W10 continues to destroy machines with failed updates, wreaking havoc where there was none. Below was my post to this discussion group back in August 31 this year. The debacle continues, if anyone learns of a class action against these MS bullies who refuse to listen to users and hijack what we paid for a perfectly good, working system, I would be very interested.

    "......After several days of extreme frustration, searching in various places and trying several different things, your solution has worked. Thank you very much.

    I wonder what the lay public does in these situations. I think it is MS deliberate policy to cause such nuisance on ordinary users of Win 7 for whom it is perfectly adequate, in an attempt to eventually force them to the debacle that is Win 10. I too foolishly initially moved to W10 and it nearly destroyed my Lenovo W500, a perfectly respectable laptop, by screwing up the video driver, claiming incompatibility and a host of other problems that did NOT come up on a MS W10 compatibility test.

    As the author suggests, leave the auto update off. Run Win 7 to the ground and never DOWNGRADE to Win 10. When my 12 machines have coughed their last breath and Win 7 is completely dead, I will revert to Ubuntu or may be even move to Apple Mac (Yuch...I know...). But that's what MS has driven me and MANY others I know to. Totally disgusted, with all their play to force people on Win 10, MS has no shame...... "

    "The bigger they are, the harder they fall"

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  2. Anonymous
    2017-01-02T03:29:55+00:00

    Dear Microsoft – I write as an owner whom started with his first computer using Windows XP and progressing into Windows 7. I used to work (I am now retired at 60) for a company that was using XP and I encouraged them to upgrade to Windows 7, just shortly after Windows 7 launch.

    Now to the present, earlier this year I have been bombarded by reminders that I qualified for a FREE upgrade to Windows 10, actually it was countless times. I have an older computer, about 5 or 6 years in age, it has an Intel I5 processor running at 3.2 GHz, a 1 GB graphics card and 8 GB of Ram – which to my understanding is way above for an average computer owner.

    Your company contacted me for the free upgrade to Windows 10, countless times. I finally broke down and took your FREE offer to upgrade. That was the START of MANY problems.

    I loaded things, my computer responded and I kind of liked it – for about 10 minutes, this didn’t work, that needed drivers, this worked after a driver update but didn’t after the restart. I then went onto the Dell website and my Inspiron 580 had “not been tested with Windows 10” which is an easy way of saying “buyer beware” and our **** are covered should you make any change.  I then retracted my agreement, as your software permitted, and returned to my Windows 7 operating system.

    Many months later, and October this year, I finally decided that as your company had professed that Windows 7 support was declining, I decided to make another switch to Windows 10 and try make it work for me. Well again, I had problems, many similar to as before, with Windows 10. Similar being, one day this worked, the next it didn’t (does this sound familiar to anyone?)

    I then decided (20 days after the second “upgrade” oh sorry FREE, upgrade to Windows 10) I should return once and for all to Windows 7 Home Premium, which was fully operational, and causing NO problems on my computer, and that I had NO reason to make any changes (oh sorry Microsoft – UPGRADES).

    I then went to the Control Panel and clicked on the appropriate items to “return to Windows 7” …. BUT those options were no more…funny. The system said that I had “exceeded the 10 day period” that I would (was basically) screwed, and could no longer return to my fully operating system, Windows 7 Home.

    I have spent several days and many hours trying to use my Windows 7 installation to reinstall the operating system, unfortunately, now I can only run my “built in” graphics card, my bought and installed PCI e slot Graphics Card cannot be accessed by Windows, worse, doing any driver updates is next to impossible.

    Trust me I have updated the controllers, the BIOs, I have Restored my computer more than an average very **** person would have ****. I have done it in SAFE MODE, I have done it with all systems down, but the NITTY GRITTY, I can’t for the life of me get my dam Graphics Card, which worked fine before the Windows 10 UPGRADE, to work for me. So I thought the card was BAD, I bought another, SAME THING.

    Dam Microsoft, must be nice to screw everyone that likes something you want to get rid of. Why don’t you just send an update with some nasty stuff in it and fix things once and for all and eradicate people like me that are just trying to get their old operating system back as it was before you **** IT

    Grant Grayson

    ******@shaw.ca

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  3. Anonymous
    2017-01-01T19:37:30+00:00

    Thanks for the quick response. I visited the website you suggested.  Looks like I'll have to upgrade my .NET Framework, but that probably needs doing anyway.

    Thanks again!

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  4. Anonymous
    2017-01-01T19:36:42+00:00

    Congratulations to you.  Good job.

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  5. Anonymous
    2017-01-01T19:30:48+00:00

    You're correct. The older computer originally had Windows XP, but Best Buy was kind enough to upgrade it to Windows 7 as part of the purchase deal and gave me the upgrade package.

    I used the same Windows 7 disk to install a new hard drive on a 2nd computer.  Fortunately, the Windows key was on a sticker on the back side (of the 2nd computer).  It's been a very good home computer for several years and now has a new 1Tb hard drive. I hope to get a couple more years of service from it.

    Your advice on the SP1 update is well taken.  I see that ElderN is suggesting a website in the next post where, I assume, SP! can be downloaded and installed from an external source - I haven't visited the website yet.

    Thanks to you both for your quick responses and encouragement.

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