Windows 7 Update Problems? Read this first.

Anonymous
2016-07-29T13:38:24+00:00

There are now two discussions for Windows Update problems.

This original one which still works fine and a new Advanced Users Discussion.

The Advanced Users Discussion may be more appealing to users that are comfortable maneuvering around some more advanced areas of Windows, those already familiar with downloading and installing Windows updates or have an aversion to using Internet Explorer.  No fancy words or screen shots for those users that don't need them:

Click here for the Advanced Users Discussion

Keep reading for the original discussion about Windows Update problems.

The original method of downloading the two Microsoft updates has gotten unreliable and pushed down to the bottom of this page separated by a row of @@@@@ signs.

The new method involves downloading some updates from the Microsoft Update Catalog and seems more reliable but you must use Internet Explorer to download the updates.  If you visit the Microsoft Update Catalog with another browser these downloads will not work.

Here is what we have so far for the process using Internet Explorer to get the downloads needed:

You may have better luck using the Microsoft Update Catalog but that will require using Internet Explorer.

If IE is not your default browser you can't just click on and open these links or your default browser will open and you won't be able to get the Update Catalog to work.

These are not things to "try".  These are things to "do".

Do this:

Open Control Panel and change the View to Small icons so you can see things easier (some folks are shocked when they see all the stuff on this screen!):

Choose Windows Update, Change Settings and make a note of the current setting because you need to change them.

Make these adjustments and click OK to save the changes:

Restart your system for the changes to take effect. 

That adjustment will immediately stop any kind of background update activity that might be stuck (causing your system to run slow) and allow you to manually download two other updates you need to fix the other Windows Update issues.

To access the Microsoft Update Catalog you must use Internet Explorer.

Open Internet Explorer and copy and paste this URL into the address bar:

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/home.aspx

When using the Update Catalog you can search for the updates and then add them to your "basket" and then when the two updates are in your basket you can download the contents of your basket (two updates) to your desktop or someplace you can find them and then install them.

The first update to search for is KB3020369:

Click the Add button to add the appropriate update (32 or 64 bit) to your basket and you will see that your basket now has one item:

Then search for the second update KB3172605:

Click the Add button to add the appropriate update (32 or 64 bit) to your basket and you will see that your basket now has two items:

Now you are ready to download the contents of your basket which should have 2 items in it:

Click view basket:

Then click the Download button:

Then choose the location folder for the downloads (your desktop or someplace you can find them):

Click OK to start the download process and wait for the two updates to download.

Locate and double click the package for KB3020369 to launch the installer and let it complete. 

If the update is already installed you will see this (not a problem):

Restart your system so the update will take effect.

Locate and double click the package for KB3172605 to launch the installer and let it complete. 

Restart your system, the go back to Control Panel, Windows Update and choose to Check for Updates:

Wait patiently...  The Microsoft servers are also very busy after Patch Tuesday (the second Tuesday of every month) and several days after that as millions of systems around the world are being updated.

When your system is fully updated you can delete the files you downloaded.

Many experienced troubleshooters and technicians suggest leaving the Windows update settings the way they are now - to never check for any updates:

That doesn't mean you will never get updates or cannot get updates - it means instead of Microsoft deciding what updates get applied to your system, you are in control of the update process and you can decide when to check for updates, review the updates and you can decide which updates you want or need to apply to your system.

Being able to review the updates before installing them will allow you to hide any updates you don't want such as hardware driver updates (video, audio, network).  Microsoft does not know what the best hardware drivers are for your system and will often send driver updates that will cause your system to malfunction or not work at all.

Since you are now in control of Windows Updates you will have to check periodically for updates yourself but that is really the best way to be sure you don't get some updates that will cause your system to malfunction.

Microsoft issues a batch of updates the second Tuesday of every month (Patch Tuesday) so you should at least check once a month for updates.  Of course now that Windows Update is behaving you can check as often as you want.

If you don't like the idea of being in control of your system updates you can set the settings back to the way they were in the beginning.

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Old Instructions

I hope to pull what I think are the best ideas and procedures to address Windows Update issues (not working, hung up, taking too long, nothing happens, etc., etc., etc.).

Taking input from several sources and putting it all in one place with enough illustrations to be easy to understand and will work for new/fresh/reinstalls of Windows 7 and also work for already installed systems.

Please take a look at it and reply to the discussion with any changes and I can just change the top part.

Then when we see a "Windows Update isn't working, taking too long, broken, nothing happens, etc." we can refer to the discussion and it that doesn't work we can adjust the discussion so it does work.  Then everything is in one place and we will all deliver a consistent message that will hopefully work for everybody.

These are not things to "try".  These are things to "do".

Do this:

Open Control Panel and change the View to Small icons so you can see things easier (some folks are shocked when they see all the stuff on this screen!):

Choose Windows Update, Change Settings and make a note of the current setting because you need to change them.

Make these adjustments and click OK to save the changes:

Restart your system for the changes to take effect. 

That adjustment will immediately stop any kind of background update activity that might be stuck (causing your system to run slow) and allow you to manually download two other updates you need to fix the other Windows Update issues.

If your installation is new or a reinstall you need to start by installing KB3020369:

April 2015 servicing stack update for Windows 7

If you already have KB3020369 installed you won't be able to install it twice so go ahead and visit this link to be sure:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3020369

If your system is 32-bit download the x86 package.

If your system is 64-bit download the x64 package.

Choose to download the correct package for your system and save the file to someplace you can find it - like your desktop.

Double click the package you downloaded to launch the installer and let it complete. 

If the update is already installed you will see this (not a problem):

Restart your system so the update will take effect.

Next visit this link and choose to install KB3172605:

July 2016 update rollup for Windows 7

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605

If your system is 32-bit download the x86 package.

If your system is 64-bit download the x64 package.

Choose to download the correct package for your system and save the file to someplace you can find it - like your desktop.

Double click the package you downloaded to launch the installer and let it complete.

Restart your system, the go back to Control Panel, Windows Update and choose to Check for Updates:

Wait patiently...  Remember that these are the last hours to get the Windows 10 upgrade for free so the Microsoft servers are probably taking a pounding.  The Microsoft servers are also very busy on Patch Tuesday (the second Tuesday of every month) and several days after that as millions of systems around the world are being updated.

When your system is fully updated you can delete the files you downloaded.

Many experienced troubleshooters and technicians suggest leaving the Windows update settings the way they are now - to never check for any updates:

That doesn't mean you will never get updates or cannot get updates - it means instead of Microsoft deciding what updates get applied to your system, you are in control of the update process and you can decide when to check for updates, review the updates and you can decide which updates you want or need to apply to your system.

Being able to review the updates before installing them will allow you to hide any updates you don't want such as hardware driver updates (video, audio, network).  Microsoft does not know what the best hardware drivers are for your system and will often send driver updates that will cause your system to malfunction or not work at all.

Since you are now in control of Windows Updates you will have to check periodically for updates yourself but that is really the best way to be sure you don't get some updates that will cause your system to malfunction.

Microsoft issues a batch of updates the second Tuesday of every month (Patch Tuesday) so you should at least check once a month for updates.  Of course now that Windows Update is behaving you can check as often as you want.

If you don't like the idea of being in control of your system updates you can set the settings back to the way they were in the beginning.

Reply to this discussion if there are things missing or ideas how to make it easier to follow understand.

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-07-31T13:32:01+00:00

    Got it :-)

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-07-31T13:21:33+00:00

    There is still a discrepancy in the original post caused by a typo :

    /start

    Next visit this link and choose to install KB3176205:

    July 2016 update rollup for Windows 7

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605

    /end

    For the record, the correct KB number is the one in the link : KB3172605.

    The other one is not a valid KB number (or at least, is unknown to Google).

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-07-31T12:14:05+00:00

    The SUR can take a while to run and if there is a problem reported they can be fixed.

    But first I think one needs to fix the fundamental problems and that seems to be STOPPING any kind of Windows Update activity first by turning off Automatic Updates and restarting, then installing at least the two KBs.  Go ahead and get that out out the way.

    Then hopefully Windows Update will be able to catch up normally.

    Then SUR will run fine too.

    I've never actually had this problem so I'm not sure about SUR getting hung up (it is slow) and what you should see pretty quickly after your screen shot is SUR asking to install:

    ![](http://fud.community.services.support.microsoft.com/Fud/FileDownloadHandler.ashx?fid=0160cbe7-234e-4ff9-ac62-f2d648c36c8c)

    Then it does its thing and can take a long time - if there is nothing else broken ahead of running SUR, after a while of Initializing installation... it will say Installation Complete (even though it didn't install anything) and one can interpret the report which on my poor system (while doing other things) took 13.65 minutes:

    =================================

    Checking System Update Readiness.

    Binary Version 6.1.7601.22471

    Package Version 26.0

    2016-07-31 07:54

    Checking Windows Servicing Packages

    Checking Package Manifests and Catalogs

    Checking Package Watchlist

    Checking Component Watchlist

    Checking Packages

    Checking Component Store

    Summary:

    Seconds executed: 819

     No errors detected

    If you are going to suggest SUR hopefully one knows how to also fix any problems it reports.  Often it involves extracting individual files from Windows 7 ISO files so you better have all of those handy if you want to be in that bidness.

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  5. Anonymous
    2016-07-31T03:51:37+00:00

    A FURTHER NOTE ON THE IMPORTANCE OF CHANGING THE UPDATE SETTINGS

    I wanted to further comment for the benefit of those who find this Community Discussion through a search or who are also considering alternative solutions that the very first step described -- CHANGING THE UPDATE SETTINGS -- seems to be CRITICAL to resolving a number of various different WIndows Update issues, including issues not at first readily apparent.

    For example, within one posted question ("Windows 7 Update Error," April 25, 2016), Community Moderator Gerry C J Cornell suggests:

    "As appropriate please download and run the System Update Readiness Tool – 32 bit (x86 version)

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=3132 

    or

    Download and run the System Update Readiness Tool -64 bit version

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=20858

    The System Update Readiness Tool creates a log file that captures any issues that the tool found or fixed. The log file is located at the following location:

    •%SYSTEMROOT%\Logs\CBS\CheckSUR.log

    •%SYSTEMROOT%\Logs\CBS\CheckSUR.persist.log"

    See:  http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/windows-7-update-error/1d5f824d-fb79-460f-9da2-e9762b088c2f

    In experimenting with this troublshooting approach, I found that when I downloaded and sought to manually install the MS System Update Readiness Tool, I seemed to get STUCK in the very SAME endless search process which plagues the automatic updates whenthe PRIOR VERSION of Windows Update is NOT WORKING.

    When I started the System Update Readiness Tool at about 7:20 AM on July 29, 2016, I soon received a box saying "Windows Update Standalone Installer" indicating "Searching for updates on this computer."

    ![](http://fud.community.services.support.microsoft.com/Fud/FileDownloadHandler.ashx?fid=a59c4bac-92cb-4d74-a79d-ce86908bfd4b)

    I seem to be faced with the recursive problem that the System Update Readiness Tool necessary to check my system seems to rely upon Windows Update which IS NOT WORKING, the problem I was trying to resolve.

    I finally ABANDONED this System Update Readiness Tool intitiative at 8:30 AM, as the box saying "Windows Update Standalone Installer" indicating "Searching for updates on this computer" just kept up this same false indication of progress for ninety minutes, losing valuable time in my quest for a solution.

    When I found the proposed solution shown by ElderN, I discovered that each standalone downloaded patch or tool installed VERY QUICKLY, as long as I had chosen "Never install updates."

    *

    Thus, it seems that for any class of problems wherein one is downloading and attempting to install atool which relies upon the Windows Update Standalone Installer, first setting Windows Update to "Never check for updates" seems to be indicated.

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