Windows 7 Update Problems? Read this first.

Anonymous
2016-07-29T13:38:24+00:00

There are now two discussions for Windows Update problems.

This original one which still works fine and a new Advanced Users Discussion.

The Advanced Users Discussion may be more appealing to users that are comfortable maneuvering around some more advanced areas of Windows, those already familiar with downloading and installing Windows updates or have an aversion to using Internet Explorer.  No fancy words or screen shots for those users that don't need them:

Click here for the Advanced Users Discussion

Keep reading for the original discussion about Windows Update problems.

The original method of downloading the two Microsoft updates has gotten unreliable and pushed down to the bottom of this page separated by a row of @@@@@ signs.

The new method involves downloading some updates from the Microsoft Update Catalog and seems more reliable but you must use Internet Explorer to download the updates.  If you visit the Microsoft Update Catalog with another browser these downloads will not work.

Here is what we have so far for the process using Internet Explorer to get the downloads needed:

You may have better luck using the Microsoft Update Catalog but that will require using Internet Explorer.

If IE is not your default browser you can't just click on and open these links or your default browser will open and you won't be able to get the Update Catalog to work.

These are not things to "try".  These are things to "do".

Do this:

Open Control Panel and change the View to Small icons so you can see things easier (some folks are shocked when they see all the stuff on this screen!):

Choose Windows Update, Change Settings and make a note of the current setting because you need to change them.

Make these adjustments and click OK to save the changes:

Restart your system for the changes to take effect. 

That adjustment will immediately stop any kind of background update activity that might be stuck (causing your system to run slow) and allow you to manually download two other updates you need to fix the other Windows Update issues.

To access the Microsoft Update Catalog you must use Internet Explorer.

Open Internet Explorer and copy and paste this URL into the address bar:

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/home.aspx

When using the Update Catalog you can search for the updates and then add them to your "basket" and then when the two updates are in your basket you can download the contents of your basket (two updates) to your desktop or someplace you can find them and then install them.

The first update to search for is KB3020369:

Click the Add button to add the appropriate update (32 or 64 bit) to your basket and you will see that your basket now has one item:

Then search for the second update KB3172605:

Click the Add button to add the appropriate update (32 or 64 bit) to your basket and you will see that your basket now has two items:

Now you are ready to download the contents of your basket which should have 2 items in it:

Click view basket:

Then click the Download button:

Then choose the location folder for the downloads (your desktop or someplace you can find them):

Click OK to start the download process and wait for the two updates to download.

Locate and double click the package for KB3020369 to launch the installer and let it complete. 

If the update is already installed you will see this (not a problem):

Restart your system so the update will take effect.

Locate and double click the package for KB3172605 to launch the installer and let it complete. 

Restart your system, the go back to Control Panel, Windows Update and choose to Check for Updates:

Wait patiently...  The Microsoft servers are also very busy after Patch Tuesday (the second Tuesday of every month) and several days after that as millions of systems around the world are being updated.

When your system is fully updated you can delete the files you downloaded.

Many experienced troubleshooters and technicians suggest leaving the Windows update settings the way they are now - to never check for any updates:

That doesn't mean you will never get updates or cannot get updates - it means instead of Microsoft deciding what updates get applied to your system, you are in control of the update process and you can decide when to check for updates, review the updates and you can decide which updates you want or need to apply to your system.

Being able to review the updates before installing them will allow you to hide any updates you don't want such as hardware driver updates (video, audio, network).  Microsoft does not know what the best hardware drivers are for your system and will often send driver updates that will cause your system to malfunction or not work at all.

Since you are now in control of Windows Updates you will have to check periodically for updates yourself but that is really the best way to be sure you don't get some updates that will cause your system to malfunction.

Microsoft issues a batch of updates the second Tuesday of every month (Patch Tuesday) so you should at least check once a month for updates.  Of course now that Windows Update is behaving you can check as often as you want.

If you don't like the idea of being in control of your system updates you can set the settings back to the way they were in the beginning.

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Old Instructions

I hope to pull what I think are the best ideas and procedures to address Windows Update issues (not working, hung up, taking too long, nothing happens, etc., etc., etc.).

Taking input from several sources and putting it all in one place with enough illustrations to be easy to understand and will work for new/fresh/reinstalls of Windows 7 and also work for already installed systems.

Please take a look at it and reply to the discussion with any changes and I can just change the top part.

Then when we see a "Windows Update isn't working, taking too long, broken, nothing happens, etc." we can refer to the discussion and it that doesn't work we can adjust the discussion so it does work.  Then everything is in one place and we will all deliver a consistent message that will hopefully work for everybody.

These are not things to "try".  These are things to "do".

Do this:

Open Control Panel and change the View to Small icons so you can see things easier (some folks are shocked when they see all the stuff on this screen!):

Choose Windows Update, Change Settings and make a note of the current setting because you need to change them.

Make these adjustments and click OK to save the changes:

Restart your system for the changes to take effect. 

That adjustment will immediately stop any kind of background update activity that might be stuck (causing your system to run slow) and allow you to manually download two other updates you need to fix the other Windows Update issues.

If your installation is new or a reinstall you need to start by installing KB3020369:

April 2015 servicing stack update for Windows 7

If you already have KB3020369 installed you won't be able to install it twice so go ahead and visit this link to be sure:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3020369

If your system is 32-bit download the x86 package.

If your system is 64-bit download the x64 package.

Choose to download the correct package for your system and save the file to someplace you can find it - like your desktop.

Double click the package you downloaded to launch the installer and let it complete. 

If the update is already installed you will see this (not a problem):

Restart your system so the update will take effect.

Next visit this link and choose to install KB3172605:

July 2016 update rollup for Windows 7

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605

If your system is 32-bit download the x86 package.

If your system is 64-bit download the x64 package.

Choose to download the correct package for your system and save the file to someplace you can find it - like your desktop.

Double click the package you downloaded to launch the installer and let it complete.

Restart your system, the go back to Control Panel, Windows Update and choose to Check for Updates:

Wait patiently...  Remember that these are the last hours to get the Windows 10 upgrade for free so the Microsoft servers are probably taking a pounding.  The Microsoft servers are also very busy on Patch Tuesday (the second Tuesday of every month) and several days after that as millions of systems around the world are being updated.

When your system is fully updated you can delete the files you downloaded.

Many experienced troubleshooters and technicians suggest leaving the Windows update settings the way they are now - to never check for any updates:

That doesn't mean you will never get updates or cannot get updates - it means instead of Microsoft deciding what updates get applied to your system, you are in control of the update process and you can decide when to check for updates, review the updates and you can decide which updates you want or need to apply to your system.

Being able to review the updates before installing them will allow you to hide any updates you don't want such as hardware driver updates (video, audio, network).  Microsoft does not know what the best hardware drivers are for your system and will often send driver updates that will cause your system to malfunction or not work at all.

Since you are now in control of Windows Updates you will have to check periodically for updates yourself but that is really the best way to be sure you don't get some updates that will cause your system to malfunction.

Microsoft issues a batch of updates the second Tuesday of every month (Patch Tuesday) so you should at least check once a month for updates.  Of course now that Windows Update is behaving you can check as often as you want.

If you don't like the idea of being in control of your system updates you can set the settings back to the way they were in the beginning.

Reply to this discussion if there are things missing or ideas how to make it easier to follow understand.

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-08-17T20:27:30+00:00

    What about downloading from these pages:

    https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3030269

    https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3172605

    :)

    VZ, Thanks for responding

    Re: https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3030269

    All I get is:

    Try searching for what you need

    This page doesn’t exist.

    Re: https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3172605

    Allowed me to download: Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3172605), or Windows6.1-KB3172605-x64.msu

    When I run this, the response is:

    1. Windows Update Standalone Installer (pop up 1): Searching for updates on this computer...
    2. Windows Update Standalone Installer (pop up 2): This update is not applicable to your computer.

    I note that the computer is running: Windows 7 Ultimate, Service Pack 1, 64b

    :(

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-08-17T19:59:29+00:00

    You don't have to wait until October. It's always the same: You need to stop the search going on in the background. Set automatic updates to "Never check for updates" and restart Windows. Then run the .msu files or the troubleshooter and preferably install KB3172605.

    Regards, VZ

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-08-17T19:54:05+00:00

    I like this whole post about this topic. Thank you to ElderN for reminding me about the catalog and for his instructions and also thanks to others for their feedback.  I had long ago turned off automatic updates after suffering problems with post-Microsoft updates.  I initially thought "I will update everything because I wanted my machine to be running smooth", then I learned the hard way that not all updates are good for my pc, so I started to only update critical and mandatory updates and sometimes recommended updates and I had a better experience.  Last year I switched to "never update" because of Microsoft's covert Windows10 upgrade campaign. 

    I have been guilty of blindly downloading and installing updates: I followed ElderN's instructions and the updates just didn't install; I searched the internet and also learned that the "Windows 7 Update Agent" is being switched to a monthly patch rollup.  I revisited the Microsoft Update Catalog and search for windows 7 64bit - "1000 updates" was the resultant search, so I looked for updates dated after ~ June 20th because my last successful update was in June 2016 - I selected only 4 updates for 64-bit based systems.  I noticed the name of these updates and I thought something was a little peculiar, but I proceeded with the downloads and "double-click" to install each of them.  I thought the update was taking too long because it was searching for "updates on my computer"; I opened up the Task Manager and killed each attempt because it was taking too long.  I then searched on the names of the updates and viewed the "more details about this update" note - they are identified as "AMD" for "AMD Architecture".  The windows troubleshooter also hangs!  My pc is Intel architecture, so I am back to "never update windows" until October 2016or I can figure out to get Windows 7 updates for my 64bit Intel architecture computer.  Besides updating my computer has been broken down into hardware parts and software parts i.e., Intel utilities, NVidia updates, HP Solution Center, etc.,  more often than in the past.  IMHO I think the vendors and Microsoft suppliers are having a tissy-fit with each other due to last year's FCC Bill passing into law.

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-08-17T19:16:24+00:00

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  5. Anonymous
    2016-08-17T18:45:01+00:00

    Help. Please. Bottom line: I can't make it through step 2.

    Based on the feedback, I am hoping this process works. Everything else has failed. I would love to outline all that I have done to date to get updates to work thus far. The bottom line is that I reinstalled Win 7 from scratch (yeah, even then update doesn't work). So, after disabling auto-update, I then proceed to http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Install.aspx. The problem is, this doesn't work. I get the following screen:

    (ha ha, this version of IE11 won't allow me to append a capture of the screen; it is mostly blank, there is no search window or any input area allowing me to navigate to the needed file)

    The version?

    (ha ha, again, no capture: IE version 11.0.9600.17691, update version 11.0.17 (KB3032359) )

    So, while I figured that a clean version of Windows 7 might still be able to do updates correctly, I was profoundly wrong. It goes without saying that this used to work. It doesn't anymore. I'm dying here. All our Win7 machines are lost in update ****. I'm so $)@(*$ mad that I've lost my ability to even think clearly. HELP!

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