Windows 7 Update Problems? Read this first.

Anonymous
2016-07-29T13:38:24+00:00

There are now two discussions for Windows Update problems.

This original one which still works fine and a new Advanced Users Discussion.

The Advanced Users Discussion may be more appealing to users that are comfortable maneuvering around some more advanced areas of Windows, those already familiar with downloading and installing Windows updates or have an aversion to using Internet Explorer.  No fancy words or screen shots for those users that don't need them:

Click here for the Advanced Users Discussion

Keep reading for the original discussion about Windows Update problems.

The original method of downloading the two Microsoft updates has gotten unreliable and pushed down to the bottom of this page separated by a row of @@@@@ signs.

The new method involves downloading some updates from the Microsoft Update Catalog and seems more reliable but you must use Internet Explorer to download the updates.  If you visit the Microsoft Update Catalog with another browser these downloads will not work.

Here is what we have so far for the process using Internet Explorer to get the downloads needed:

You may have better luck using the Microsoft Update Catalog but that will require using Internet Explorer.

If IE is not your default browser you can't just click on and open these links or your default browser will open and you won't be able to get the Update Catalog to work.

These are not things to "try".  These are things to "do".

Do this:

Open Control Panel and change the View to Small icons so you can see things easier (some folks are shocked when they see all the stuff on this screen!):

Choose Windows Update, Change Settings and make a note of the current setting because you need to change them.

Make these adjustments and click OK to save the changes:

Restart your system for the changes to take effect. 

That adjustment will immediately stop any kind of background update activity that might be stuck (causing your system to run slow) and allow you to manually download two other updates you need to fix the other Windows Update issues.

To access the Microsoft Update Catalog you must use Internet Explorer.

Open Internet Explorer and copy and paste this URL into the address bar:

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/home.aspx

When using the Update Catalog you can search for the updates and then add them to your "basket" and then when the two updates are in your basket you can download the contents of your basket (two updates) to your desktop or someplace you can find them and then install them.

The first update to search for is KB3020369:

Click the Add button to add the appropriate update (32 or 64 bit) to your basket and you will see that your basket now has one item:

Then search for the second update KB3172605:

Click the Add button to add the appropriate update (32 or 64 bit) to your basket and you will see that your basket now has two items:

Now you are ready to download the contents of your basket which should have 2 items in it:

Click view basket:

Then click the Download button:

Then choose the location folder for the downloads (your desktop or someplace you can find them):

Click OK to start the download process and wait for the two updates to download.

Locate and double click the package for KB3020369 to launch the installer and let it complete. 

If the update is already installed you will see this (not a problem):

Restart your system so the update will take effect.

Locate and double click the package for KB3172605 to launch the installer and let it complete. 

Restart your system, the go back to Control Panel, Windows Update and choose to Check for Updates:

Wait patiently...  The Microsoft servers are also very busy after Patch Tuesday (the second Tuesday of every month) and several days after that as millions of systems around the world are being updated.

When your system is fully updated you can delete the files you downloaded.

Many experienced troubleshooters and technicians suggest leaving the Windows update settings the way they are now - to never check for any updates:

That doesn't mean you will never get updates or cannot get updates - it means instead of Microsoft deciding what updates get applied to your system, you are in control of the update process and you can decide when to check for updates, review the updates and you can decide which updates you want or need to apply to your system.

Being able to review the updates before installing them will allow you to hide any updates you don't want such as hardware driver updates (video, audio, network).  Microsoft does not know what the best hardware drivers are for your system and will often send driver updates that will cause your system to malfunction or not work at all.

Since you are now in control of Windows Updates you will have to check periodically for updates yourself but that is really the best way to be sure you don't get some updates that will cause your system to malfunction.

Microsoft issues a batch of updates the second Tuesday of every month (Patch Tuesday) so you should at least check once a month for updates.  Of course now that Windows Update is behaving you can check as often as you want.

If you don't like the idea of being in control of your system updates you can set the settings back to the way they were in the beginning.

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Old Instructions

I hope to pull what I think are the best ideas and procedures to address Windows Update issues (not working, hung up, taking too long, nothing happens, etc., etc., etc.).

Taking input from several sources and putting it all in one place with enough illustrations to be easy to understand and will work for new/fresh/reinstalls of Windows 7 and also work for already installed systems.

Please take a look at it and reply to the discussion with any changes and I can just change the top part.

Then when we see a "Windows Update isn't working, taking too long, broken, nothing happens, etc." we can refer to the discussion and it that doesn't work we can adjust the discussion so it does work.  Then everything is in one place and we will all deliver a consistent message that will hopefully work for everybody.

These are not things to "try".  These are things to "do".

Do this:

Open Control Panel and change the View to Small icons so you can see things easier (some folks are shocked when they see all the stuff on this screen!):

Choose Windows Update, Change Settings and make a note of the current setting because you need to change them.

Make these adjustments and click OK to save the changes:

Restart your system for the changes to take effect. 

That adjustment will immediately stop any kind of background update activity that might be stuck (causing your system to run slow) and allow you to manually download two other updates you need to fix the other Windows Update issues.

If your installation is new or a reinstall you need to start by installing KB3020369:

April 2015 servicing stack update for Windows 7

If you already have KB3020369 installed you won't be able to install it twice so go ahead and visit this link to be sure:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3020369

If your system is 32-bit download the x86 package.

If your system is 64-bit download the x64 package.

Choose to download the correct package for your system and save the file to someplace you can find it - like your desktop.

Double click the package you downloaded to launch the installer and let it complete. 

If the update is already installed you will see this (not a problem):

Restart your system so the update will take effect.

Next visit this link and choose to install KB3172605:

July 2016 update rollup for Windows 7

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605

If your system is 32-bit download the x86 package.

If your system is 64-bit download the x64 package.

Choose to download the correct package for your system and save the file to someplace you can find it - like your desktop.

Double click the package you downloaded to launch the installer and let it complete.

Restart your system, the go back to Control Panel, Windows Update and choose to Check for Updates:

Wait patiently...  Remember that these are the last hours to get the Windows 10 upgrade for free so the Microsoft servers are probably taking a pounding.  The Microsoft servers are also very busy on Patch Tuesday (the second Tuesday of every month) and several days after that as millions of systems around the world are being updated.

When your system is fully updated you can delete the files you downloaded.

Many experienced troubleshooters and technicians suggest leaving the Windows update settings the way they are now - to never check for any updates:

That doesn't mean you will never get updates or cannot get updates - it means instead of Microsoft deciding what updates get applied to your system, you are in control of the update process and you can decide when to check for updates, review the updates and you can decide which updates you want or need to apply to your system.

Being able to review the updates before installing them will allow you to hide any updates you don't want such as hardware driver updates (video, audio, network).  Microsoft does not know what the best hardware drivers are for your system and will often send driver updates that will cause your system to malfunction or not work at all.

Since you are now in control of Windows Updates you will have to check periodically for updates yourself but that is really the best way to be sure you don't get some updates that will cause your system to malfunction.

Microsoft issues a batch of updates the second Tuesday of every month (Patch Tuesday) so you should at least check once a month for updates.  Of course now that Windows Update is behaving you can check as often as you want.

If you don't like the idea of being in control of your system updates you can set the settings back to the way they were in the beginning.

Reply to this discussion if there are things missing or ideas how to make it easier to follow understand.

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-08-08T14:24:56+00:00

    Very good effort on the article.  I have a question though.  This seems oriented mainly to someone who's installing on a new clean installation of the OS, or someone who has deleted all the updates from the update folder.  What if I still have a jillion updates and have only recently begun having problems with the updater not being able to find more updates; and not being able to install any that are appearing available.  I hesitate to completely dump all updates and start over because I'm running Win 7 Pro SP1.  If I lose SP1 and have to download it from MS, the only way it comes now is with that installer package that has tons of peripheral stuff in it that you don't need (mainly for larger wired networks).  Will these files in the download package install cleanly without first removing any original corrupted ones?  Thanks.     

    Phil D.

    Laker1388, listen to ElderN.  I had the same problem you did.  I couldn't get WU to download or install any updates.  I also have Win 7 SP1 and I never "dumped" or "deleted" the updates folder, WU just quit working on it's own, I have no idea.  I do know that I spent 6 hours back in June trying different fixes and none were working.  I had not had the time or inclination to mess with it again until yesterday, when I came across ElderN's post with these 2 easy solutions.  It took me an hour to work through those 2 downloads and then WU started working again.  Yeah, I had 104 updates to download and install.  It took about 2 and half hours, but it was a lot easier than some of the things I was seeing suggested for fixes.  

    I hope this helps.

    Mari

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-08-08T07:06:53+00:00

    Good job.

    These things to do are mostly from the experiences of other volunteer helpers that have demonstrated ability to get the afflicted Windows Update process to behave.

    Glad it worked for you.

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-08-08T07:02:35+00:00

    The discussion is just a guide pulled from experiences of some volunteers that have demonstrated they can usually get an afflicted Windows Update process working again.  It seems to work some of the time for some users and may not work all of the time for all users.  Consider it a place to get started.

    I don't think it is oriented to clean installations or someone who has deleted all the updates from the update folder (why do you think that) and it doesn't say to delete all the updates from the update folder.  I don't even know what the "update folder" is or how to delete all the updates from it.

    What is the updates folder and why would anyone delete all the updates from the update folder?  That doesn't sound like a very good idea, it is not mentioned in the discussion so I'm not sure what that means or where you would get that idea or advice. 

    I also don't know how to completely "dump all the updates" or how you could possibly lose SP1.

    I don't know what the "tons of peripheral stuff (mainly for larger wired networks)" is either.

    I don't know what "the original corrupted ones" is either.

    If your Windows Update was afflicted and it you have been trying things to get it to behave I think there is some good advice out there and there is some not so good advice about what to do.  Some of it makes absolutely no sense at all.

    If you have followed the discussion diligently and still have problems, start a new topic/question for yourself:

    In that new Question you might say you've been through the "Read this first" discussion and still have problems then describe the problems and the other volunteers that have more experience than I might have some ideas for you.

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-08-08T03:15:11+00:00

    Very good effort on the article.  I have a question though.  This seems oriented mainly to someone who's installing on a new clean installation of the OS, or someone who has deleted all the updates from the update folder.  What if I still have a jillion updates and have only recently begun having problems with the updater not being able to find more updates; and not being able to install any that are appearing available.  I hesitate to completely dump all updates and start over because I'm running Win 7 Pro SP1.  If I lose SP1 and have to download it from MS, the only way it comes now is with that installer package that has tons of peripheral stuff in it that you don't need (mainly for larger wired networks).  Will these files in the download package install cleanly without first removing any original corrupted ones?  Thanks.     

    Phil D.

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  5. Anonymous
    2016-08-08T00:51:17+00:00

    O>M>G !!!   I spent 6 hours in June trying to get Windows Updates to update and nothing ws happening.  I was seeing all kinds of "things to try" and after failing a few of them I said FI!  I had some time today and started again downloading windows updates and I came across this page of  "Things to Do" NOT to TRY. 

    I have no idea what was different from June and August, but this work flawlessly.  I had 104 updates to install.  I chose to install 79 updates and they installed without a hitch!  I now have another 31 to install, and I will see which ones because I do not want to have the W10 update installed. 

    Thank you so very much Mr. Elder N.   I was ready to do some drastic things with this computer, but you've saved my sanity.

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