KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?

Anonymous
2015-04-12T11:56:46+00:00

Would you please tell me how to prevent the installation of KB3035583 in my computer and if it is already installed, how to remove it?  Also, are there other updates that we need to be concerned about that enable this behaviour?

KB3035583 now appears as an Important update in Windows Update and is checked which means it will be automatically installed if the user does not uncheck it.  If automatic update is set, it will install without intervention.

There are credible articles that say that Microsoft either has installed or will install changes to my computer that will enable Microsoft to use it as an advertising platform and then install Windows 10 without first obtaining an informed decision to do so.  I truly hope this is not true.

On behalf of my clients and their 162 Windows "consumer" computers, I must tell you that we do not grant Microsoft or any other vendor the right to do this.  When other Windows players do this, we regard it as malware and take great care to remove it.

Microsoft got to where it is today by selling Windows.  We have spent decades learning how to use Windows and billions of dollars buying Windows computers and Windows software.  We own these systems.  They are ours, not Microsoft's.

Windows Update has earned a huge trust.  We trust Microsoft to use Windows Update to keep our computers safe and secure.  When Patch Tuesday comes along we install all the updates that Microsoft says are "important." We assume those to be either plugging a security leak or fixing a software error.

We all hope Windows 10 will be something we will want.  We will carefully review and consult trusted advisors before we install Windows 10.  We have seen Windows 8 and rejected it.  Windows 8 is a bad product we did not choose.  

Automatically installing Windows 10 on our computers would be a severe abuse of a well-earned trust.  Changing our computers to enable them to become advertising platforms is also an abuse.

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  1. Monkey57 3,535 Reputation points
    2016-01-01T00:29:48+00:00

    Why are you suggesting, unnecessary tools for Win10, oh, I forgot you are trying to protect your win7 install.  Discussing the merits of linux or El Capitan vs win7, is much easier...  Gee I am glad zero-day vulnerabilities only come out once a month, I just hope the day is guessed right for the updates to be applied.

    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc512587.aspx

    Most people I know using Pro Tools, are on Mac's, and they cuss every time Apple updates their OS.  Avid Pro Tools 12 is subscription based now.  I liked owning my software, too.....

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-01-01T00:13:55+00:00

    Thank you for this report from the real world.  My off-web computer stays off the Internet except to update software at the end of the month, and that's with me watching what's going on.  I choose the end of the month because by then the updates released on the previous second day of each month should have been sorted out (thank you Woody on Windows).

    For what it's worth, I have adopted this strategy:

    1.)  Accept only Security Updates, once a month (meaning that Windows Update is set to Never Do Squat Unless I Choose It).  Keep a list of M$ malware updates anyway.

    2.) Install GWX Control Panel and put it on Monitor Mode for good measure, and

    3.) Install Spybot Anti-Beacon, a free program, to (hopefully) prevent my computers from transmitting my personal data to M$.

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-12-31T23:25:41+00:00

    in Reply to wdburt1's comment:

    Ditto (wdburt1's comment)

    Why should we have to "upgrade" to Windows 10? I am I'm sure many who are interested and posting on this thread tested Windows 10 and found it wholly un-worthy of any so called "upgrade". Many of us use specialty tools and software, in my case audio recording software and hardware, that is notoriously slow providing support for OS changes. I have problems getting some of my "new" (bought in last year or so) audio hardware and software to even work with Windows 8.1 correctly. In fact, AVID, maker of ProTools Digital Audio Workstations still reccommends 32 bit XP running anything less than the shiniest, newest version of ProTools. At something like $600 or more a pop every time they issue a new version it's not practical to keep updating to newer versions when what you have, are currently using with no problems and are perfectly happy with is working out great. Just because something is newer definately doesn't make it better. Windows 10 is a great example of that. Add in privacy concerns and this update fiasco and I'm going to be riding out with 7 (and Windows 8.1 only grudgingly) until the "wheels fall off". Hopefully by then either Microsoft has corrected this idiotic behavior or some Linux distro gets a little better support from major manufacturers of hardware and software.

    I have no idea what the poster is referring to with saying with " most import a quick way to reset and recover data, when unanticipated things happen, that can not be resolved with quick research". I found it nearly as worthless as Windows 8.1 and what they did to backup and restore and the whole refresh or reset thing on Windows 8 and above have never worked (not a single time, not once, no matter how well I tried to configure it) for me on any of my machines and is completely useless to me. If you're comparing it to Windows 8.1 then maybe slightly better but still not better than Windows 7 and certainly no reason to switch for me. Then consider the utter uselessness of the error codes and stupid messages like "Something went wrong" or "Windows 10 installation has failed!" and then nothing else in logs or no way to troubleshoot. If anything they have gotten significantly worse. At least before the error codes used to lead to some specific troubleshooting technique or hotfix. Now your lucky if they are even correct. I can't tell you how many times with Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 I've gotten an error code referring to something that is totally wrong. In many cases I just look it up to try to do the opposite. Example being many problems installing Windows 10 and 8.1 where installation fails for some unknown reason, the error is "Windows 8.1 (or 10) has failed" and there are no logs to be found anywhere. If you call Microsoft or look up many of the codes you may get in bottom left of the error message box, you'll be told to make sure you're connected to the internet, run Windows updates and "always apply most recent updates", unplug devices, take out cmos battery, flash bios and all number of things. Same with the "Please wait, loading" error also on Windows 8.1 and 10 installations. The fix in those cases for me has always been to NOT get updates, NOT report or "help" Microsoft "make this installation better" and to actually remove the Ethernet cable and/or turn off Wireless internet. Works every time, and if I was to only follow what some idiot at MSFT tech support is reading from some other idiot who is writing another vague and dishonest KB article I'd never get anything done.

    On another issue, recently noticed that on my Windows 8.1 after finally fixing (in place re-install) the issue with SFC and DISM broken after KB 3022345 wreaked havoc, I have noticed that GWX.exe control app is reporting Windows 10 folder appearing after nearly every reboot. Windows update had been set on "Never". In those cases had rebooted, GWX.exe Control Panel  reports Windows 10 stuff found as soon as I reboot. Then look and see good old Windows BT folder there with stuff already starting to fill it and mysteriously my Windows Update settings are changed to "Automatic". I've had about enough of it, and almost totally finished ever using another MSFT product again for any reason. Also while I was fixing the above issue, a couple of times got BSOD installing a driver while booted to 8.1 DVD, and when recovered from the crash there were two times I then had a mysterious "Unknown Folder" (yes that was the folder name) at  the root c:\ drive and when I opened it, was full of Windows package, security files and manifests for Windows 10. Looked like Winsxs folder contents. Unreal. Next time I'm unplugging the ethernet cable at the very start of any trouble, and after rebooting when I do apply any updates.

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-12-31T22:43:09+00:00

    Your reply has little or nothing to do with my post, which is all right, so long as we understand that you just wanted to express your enthusiasm for Windows 10.

    In this regard you can be counted upon the millions and millions of users whom M$ says "love" Win10.  But I do not agree with you, nor, more fundamentally, do I agree that those who have paid a license fee for earlier versions of Windows should have their quiet possession disturbed by M$. 

    Personally, I have yet to see a list of Win10 features that adds up to a compelling reason to upgrade from Windows 7.  I question whether Win10 is that much more secure than Win7, and I don't see its developers saying much about its being more stable.  If the proposition is that I should accept having my computers constantly transmitting data (including content) to M$ so that it will be easier to recover from a crash, then no thanks.  Anyone who has experienced telephone support these days ought to think twice about placing such reliance upon a corporate behemoth, particularly one that has played so fast and loose with ethics recently.

    For me, and apparently for numerous others here, my priority is my productivity and enjoyment of my computers, and assuming that M$S eventually produces a worthwhile upgrade, I will make the change only after the benefits exceed the costs, particularly the downtime and retraining.  That time is not today, nor is it when M$ believes they have made the case, nor when they become anxious to show Wall Street that they have a viable business model.

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  5. Monkey57 3,535 Reputation points
    2015-12-31T18:54:56+00:00

    Outside of corporate concerns, or game configuration(up for discussion), or custom programs..... not sure why some users want to stay with win7 or win8x..... over ubuntu or knoppix..... between linux and windows... currently, I like what win10 gives the user.... most import a quick way to reset and recover data, when unanticipated things happen, that can not be resolved with quick research.....   every installed program/app phones home, every operating system phones home.....

    https://www.glasswire.com/

    can help the paranoid...  and there are many other tools to see things running the novice user does not see (autoruns, process explorer, etc).

    A reset to usage on a win7 computer can be painful... and win7 can not be ,fairly, compared to current operating systems from other vendors, like apple, google, and the many linux offerings......  Win10 for me, and most of my small business customers, is a safer, more versatile, and more useful operating system, but not the only one i depend on....

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