KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?

Anonymous
2015-04-12T11:56:46+00:00

Would you please tell me how to prevent the installation of KB3035583 in my computer and if it is already installed, how to remove it?  Also, are there other updates that we need to be concerned about that enable this behaviour?

KB3035583 now appears as an Important update in Windows Update and is checked which means it will be automatically installed if the user does not uncheck it.  If automatic update is set, it will install without intervention.

There are credible articles that say that Microsoft either has installed or will install changes to my computer that will enable Microsoft to use it as an advertising platform and then install Windows 10 without first obtaining an informed decision to do so.  I truly hope this is not true.

On behalf of my clients and their 162 Windows "consumer" computers, I must tell you that we do not grant Microsoft or any other vendor the right to do this.  When other Windows players do this, we regard it as malware and take great care to remove it.

Microsoft got to where it is today by selling Windows.  We have spent decades learning how to use Windows and billions of dollars buying Windows computers and Windows software.  We own these systems.  They are ours, not Microsoft's.

Windows Update has earned a huge trust.  We trust Microsoft to use Windows Update to keep our computers safe and secure.  When Patch Tuesday comes along we install all the updates that Microsoft says are "important." We assume those to be either plugging a security leak or fixing a software error.

We all hope Windows 10 will be something we will want.  We will carefully review and consult trusted advisors before we install Windows 10.  We have seen Windows 8 and rejected it.  Windows 8 is a bad product we did not choose.  

Automatically installing Windows 10 on our computers would be a severe abuse of a well-earned trust.  Changing our computers to enable them to become advertising platforms is also an abuse.

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  1. Anonymous
    2015-10-17T23:11:40+00:00

    wdburt1,

    I agree with your last post. It appears that Microsoft is using any means necessary (regardless of whether those means are legal or ethical) to boost Windows 10 installation numbers.

    However, we may want to give BeverlyMargolis-Kurtin the benefit of the doubt.

    In her previous posts in these forums she says this (regarding Microsoft) ...

    "I am seriously considering going to Apple; I've not heard of problems like this with their O/S. Angry?  Yup."

    ... and this ....

    This is the most infuriating thing MS has done.  There seems to be NO answers, just basic troubleshooting nonsense.  Guess I've got to get rid of all my Windows PCs and see what Apple has to offer.  I'm sick of this.

    So, she hardly seems to be one who would defend Microsoft.

    Just my two cents.

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-10-17T21:42:44+00:00

    You try to come across as the voice of reason but in fact your ignorance is showing.  Only amateurs believe that the text of an agreement is the last word on the subject.  Agreements are made within a context of statutes, regulation, and most importantly, legal precedents.  And this governing law does not look favorably on the notion that contracts mean whatever one party wants, especially where it holds all the power in the relationship.

    A license, not ownership--yes.  But that does not mean that Microsoft can terminate the licensee's enjoyment and use of the licensed product at will, especially if it uses force or fraud to do so.  When he or she paid the license fee, he or she paid for something more than a mere privilege cancelable at Microsoft's whim.  The licensee has a position analogous to that of a residential leaseholder.  He or she is entitled to "quiet possession" so long as he or see complies with a limited set of rules explicitly agreed to.  There is an even more fundamental concept of fitness for purpose, which will in this case restrict any move by Microsoft to cripple or replace a licensee's existing software. 

    Microsoft's legal argument--when it gets to that--no doubt will attempt to blur the distinction between updates that are the good of the user (security updates being the obvious example) and updates that are really only for the good of Microsoft.  From the company's viewpoint, replacing Windows 7 with Windows 10 is for the good of the user.  I'd like to see if the judge can keep a straight face when Microsoft's attorney tries to argue that in court.

    You, by the way, win the gold star for being the first person I have seen on several online forums who tried to defend what Microsoft is doing.

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-10-17T20:54:08+00:00

    Actually, folks, we do NOT own our operating systems; read the contract you agreed to and you'll discover that you only own a LICENSE and not the O/S.  Microsoft retains its rights to ownership.

    What?  You never READ the contract?  That is one of the biggest problems most Americans deal with.  They just click the OK button rather than read the l..o..n..g contract.  That is how the we get bamboozled into spending money we did not expect to pay.  

    So...either read the contract or deal with the consequences.

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-10-17T07:12:57+00:00

    I would not waste my breath expecting Microsoft to do anything in our favour.  FYI, Satya declared a corporate objective to install Windows 10 on 100,000,000 computers within 2 years.  That master over-all objective is what is driving this behaviour. 

    World-wide population of Windows computers is estimated to be 150,000,000 computers.  Currently, about half of those are installed in business or institutional settings.  As someone else in this thread correctly pointed out, those business and institutional buyers are simply not going to accept Win10.  In 99% of corporate settings, an IT manager would be handed his/her hat if they proposed such a crazy thing.

    I fully expect Microsoft to face that fact and totally separate the consumer market from that market and offer different products and services.  There may be an opportunity down the road if you can find a way to access some of those products, but I fully expect Microsoft will place roadblocks in that path.

    I stress again, you will not be able to control your computers' destiny unless you set your WU to NEVER. 

    I also suggest it is unreasonable to be applying WU more often than once a month.  The ones that do come out in between patch Tuesday's are more likely to be the ones that you do not want. 

    Woody is doing the world a great service by staying on top of these updates and publishing the list for us. 

    My recommendation is that you use WU but once per month, on or about patch Tuesday.  Start it looking for new updates.  You will see KB3035583 added to those updates every time you do WU, even if it is twice per day.  I currently have 10 not wanted updates on my list including that one. 

    I look after about 150 client computers and feel responsible to protect them against this Microsoft onslaught.  So far I have run into only a few of those computers that have found the dreaded flag, and they know to contact me immediately if they see it.  I clean it up using the procedure I published in this thread.  This happens only in the cases where they have not followed my directions.  So far, not a single client has allowed Win10 on their system.  My clientele are very varied.  Ages 16 to 95.  None are gurus because I will only accept a client if they follow by my rules.  That has resulted in no infections in 13 years.  I also allow only one antivirus product and that is currently Bitdefender Antivirus.  I do not allow any Internet Security product.

    FYI, I spend 7 years of my career with a major bank as a Senior Technical Advisor to a group of 25 bankers who served the Tech market.  I have a 50+ year career in Computers.  I know this market better than a lot of people.

    In 2 years time, Microsoft will awaken to the fact that Win10 was as big if not a bigger failure as Win8.  There will probably be another executive purge.  Maybe there will be a Win12 that is actually better than Win7.  Meantime hang on to your Win7.   Microsoft has declared support for Win7 through January 2020.  That deadline (just like XP) will be extended if they do not have an acceptable replacement for Win7 by that time.

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