Hello,
My understanding is that if you have ANY antivirus program in Win 8 or 8.1, Defender will automatically shut off because it anticipates conflicts.
I have never used it anyway as I have AVG Antivirus, the FREE one (download from ZD/net downloads) AVG has always worked great for me, alerting me with a flashing icon whenever something threatens and easily removes the threat. I have it active all the time
and it updates daily.
I also have Spybot Search and Destroy and have used it successfully many times to get rid of some things. But it is not active unless I turn it on manually.
I would try downloading and installing AVG and see how you like it. I have used it for many years with XP, Vista and now 8 and 8.1.
M