I HATE Windows 8. This is the worst OS ever invented.

Hi,

You don't have to use the Windows Live Login. You can go to User Accounts for example, and Change it to a password or even nothing.

 

Some of your apps may not work this way, but I don't us them anyway.

Thanks Slance310. I changed it to what was called "local"... is that what you mean?

Hi,

You don't have to use the Windows Live Login. You can go to User Accounts for example, and Change it to a password or even nothing.

Some of your apps may not work this way, but I don't us them anyway.

You said "if it appears to not work correctly" - yet it works correctly for what I have used it for.  What did not 'work correctly' for you?

I know what all the posts in this thread say, and everything the posters had to say. I used a very complicated process we non-phd's in the literary business like to call "reading." Try it, and I bet you too will be able to see what didn't work for me.

Since participation in this thread now appears to require Tape measures, and (unless it surprises us all) no longer has the potential to serve any earthly purpose, I'll be removing my subscription.

I came in here searching for a way to solve the Windows 8 problems, not to call names, posture, and strut around.

J.M.

I made no claims - I would just like explanations of what did/did not work.  I have tried it.  I have had issues - most of them hardware and driver specific (Example: an ASUS Windows RT tablet that got pretty angry when I turned off the power management for the wireless NIC.  It would bluescreen if it tried to sleep, I tried to restart it, shut it down or even if I tried to reset it to factory defaults.  Check the box so it managed the power again - all good.)

Problems are difficult to resolve if specifics are not given.  ;-)

Hi CARedHair,

I am not sure if I have either missed the point you are making, or if by now you already know what I have outlined below, however I hope my comments might help you.

1. You said "the charm appears out of no where without any reason and no clue when or when not".  Yes, I have heard that a number of people have this issue, even if I have not. So I would suggest that this is a real fault with Drivers/Hardware related software.  We will have to wait for hardware manufactures to fix this issue.
2. You said, "The shut down is very hard without a  mouse".  If this is what you mean, then I do not understand why you say this, using a Acer Windows Tablet PC, I simply press the power switch (which I think makes it go to sleep, but it is great). If I want to shut down, it is very fast and easy, I swipe from the right hand side of the screen to show the charms, then I press on the "Settings" cog icon, then press on the power icon, then press "Shut down".  It might be a few steps, but very easy to do. Maybe this is not working for you?
3. I am confused, what do you mean when you said "I have no problem with their mail since I use Chrome" ?  Mail is a email client, and Chrome is a Web Browser, I do not see the connection.  I use Thunderbird for a Desktop Email client.  You also said " I resent having to log on", does this mean that you are using a Web Browser to access your email via a Web page style email client (and this site does not allow your web browser to remember your user ID and password?  My ISP's web browser email client's UserID and Password are remembered by Internet Explorer or Firefox and it is easy to log in again, when needed.

4)  You also said, "Microsoft needs to give our options back for logging on", so maybe you were also referring to logging into Windows 8 each time you turn it on, or bring it out of sleep.  Did you know that there is a setting in the Charm's "Settings", "PC settings", "Users", "Any user who has a password must enter it when waking this PC", while a somewhat insecure, it does mean that you can bring your PC out of sleep straight into the screen you were last working in.  An alternative method would be to set a Picture Password, but this is something I have not managed to succeed in doing as yet.  I also have one old style Tablet PC that has a finger print reader, this is a great option and I wish the newer Tablets still had it.

5. You said "You cannot create shortcuts but can see all your programs provided first you return to the clutterted mode".  Did you know that you can pin any program to the Start menu, that you find in what you call the "cluttered mode", by which I guess you mean the "All apps" view.  And for programs that do not create menu tiles in Windows 8, I use File Explorer to locate the program's executable and right click it, there is then an option to pin this to the Start Menu.  I can even pin folders to the Start menu, which can be hand for folders containing photos or videos.  While I currently still prefer the original Start menu of Windows 7, I find the Windows 8 full screen Start menu very easy to use and the least of my frustrations.    It took me some weeks to get around to reading Windows 8 own help file which explained that if you swipe down on a tile (for example when in All apps view), that it brings up the "Pin to Start" menu option (and other options).   I have a lot of learning to do yet.

Are there any other issues you have not resolved with Windows 8?

My current issues are "learning how to get Picture Password to work for me", and b) "getting Apps Store to complete an upgrade".  I am open to useful suggestions on these points, but I have raised separate questions for these issues.

Shenan, you are completely missing the point... not sure if it is deliberate or just plain ignorance. 

I have been very specific about having no choice as to whether I want to use a log-on or not and as to whether I want to use my Live ID (i.e. hotmail email account) for that. Everythig else is freedom of choice but these have never ever been forced upon us by ANY computer manufacturer before and I bet you that it won't ever happen again either because Microsoft is going to change it--just watch.. like I said.. 1 lawyer is all it takes!

You may call everyone names and try to place them in place but the reality is that while you may be a Microsoft expert in this forum, "we the people" have the power out there to change Microsoft or let them fall... (and that has happened before... just remember that)

As for PhD... given that I have one and you know nothing about me... perhaps the discussion of what PhDs do or do not do shall remain with those of us who have it.

Have a great weekend and enjoy your extra steps of logging on and don't forget who the dictator is, however temporarily so... lol

Cheers!

Good luck.  Come back in a few months and let me know how your change is going. A year. When Service Pack 1 comes out. When Windows 9 comes out.

Read your own paragraph about PhDs and reflect upon it.  Especially the part about knowing nothing about you.

Automatic logon is still possible and works here.  Most keyboard commands still function (along with the multitude of new ones) just fine.  Even script written to automate things in Windows 7 and Vista seem to be working fine.