Windows Explorer expands folders inappropriately, jumping the folder you expand to the bottom of the navigation pane

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When using a left-side Navigation pane, if there are enough folders in the navigation pane such that you have a vertical scroll bar, if you click on a folder with the mouse (so as to see the contends in the right pane), then expand the folder (either by clicking on the + symbol or with the arrow key), then the left pane will automatically scroll up as far as it can such that the folder you expanded is still in view at the bottom of the pane. This removes the folder from under your mouse, where it would be expected to stay.

This is certainly a bug, as it only happens the first time you attempt to expand a folder in the manner. After doing it once, you can scroll the navigation (left) pane so that the folder in question is back in the middle of the pane, and it will expand and contract as expected, remaining under the mouse.

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Because many people seem to be interested in this issue, I'll post some info on my recent contact with Microsoft regarding this issue.

It seemed that everywhere this issue was talked about, all anybody would get from a Microsoft employee was a boilerplate "Thanks for your feedback" response. Never was the validity of the issue discussed or even acknowledged. I decided to write an email to the man in charge, Steve Ballmer, clearly laying out the problem with links to a walkthrough of the problem, this discussion, and the bug report with 220 votes (at the time). I realized that Steve would never read it himself, but I figured his email must get auto-forwarded to someone who might actually read it.

Two days later I got an email from an Advocacy Specialist from Microsoft saying a "grace case" has been created and the Windows Escalation Team would get in touch with me. The next day an Escalation Engineer emailed me asking when would be a good time to talk on the phone about the issues. So that he would be completely clear with what I was talking about, I recorded a screencast that walked through precisely what the issue was.

Edit: I've made a more condensed video demonstrating the "folder jump bug", view it here.

The end result of our talking was this:

The engineers are aware of this issue.
They may or may not provide a fix for it.

Nothing groundbreaking, but it's one more little push in the right direction. In my opinion, posting in this thread about the problem is virtually worthless. I would suggest:

Voting up and commenting on the bug here:

http://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/621426/bug-when-expanding-folders-in-explorer-server-2008-r2-and-windows-7

He said that site is closely monitored by the dev team.

Writing intelligent, profanity-free complaints that mention how the bug negatively affects your everyday file-management workflow. Email these up the Microsoft food chain until you get a response. You are a paying customer and you deserve to be heard.

I got tired of dealing with it, so am now using XYplorer when doing heavy file management. It stings to have to pay for a decent file manager, but that is life. If this issue bothers you at all, please comment and vote on the bug, and write an email.

UPDATE 9/13/11: Bug is still present in Windows 8 Developer Preview, see it here.

UPDATE 1/30/12: Finally we have a public acknowledgment that this is in fact a bug that needs to be addressed, and it will apparently be fixed in the upcoming Windows 8 Beta. This is good news, but I know I will be using Win7 for at least another year or two, as will many, many others. We deserve a patch to fix this issue in Win7. Until that happens, keep bugging Microsoft about it.

FINAL THOUGHTS: This is a real bug with 645! votes on their feedback page, however MS has no plans to fix it for their Windows 7 users. The bug is fixed in Windows 8, which means nothing for a vast number of us who have no plans to upgrade. If this bug really gets under your skin, I suggest installing Classic Shell, which has been recommended a few times in this thread. You can choose to only install the 'Classic Explorer' feature which fixes this bug among others, and even brings back the old File Copy UI which is so nice to have back. I've been using it for many months now without any troubles.

Also, to those of you who think they find a solution to this problem by simply changing a few options settings somewhere... thank you for your desire to help all of us, but you must not be having the same problem, and please don't post your 'solution' here. If you read some of the 29 pages of this thread, you'll see every solution imaginable has been suggested. This is a bug in Explorer itself. If you use Windows 7 and plan to keep using it, your options are 1) use Classic Shell, or 2) use a third party file management tool, such as XYplorer. If you stumble across this thread because you just noticed this bug, please vote up the bug, and do either 1 or 2.

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2013-06-10T14:38:00+00:00

NOT a solution.

It worked for me for a few clicks, and a hopeful wave of relief, wonder and disbelief washed over me, but as soon as I scrolled down or up, and clicked something else, and went down a level or two, the "as designed" behavior resumed, and disappointment returned, and stuck.

This is hopeless. Classic Shell is the closest to a properly working fix as we're gonna get on this.

I am totally disgustipated.
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Anonymous

2013-06-10T13:14:36+00:00

Amazing! I can confirm this actually seems to work. It's incredible no one found this fix (and publicised it) before.

[EDIT]

Scratch that, false alarm. I was too eager to accept this as a fix. It doesn't actually fix anything, unfortunately :-(
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Anonymous

2013-06-10T12:46:57+00:00

I did this test in a File Open dialog box since I still have Classic Start Menu loaded. I'll uninstall CSM when I get a chance and see if that helps.

I unloaded Classic Start Menu (right click and select Exit; I didn't have to reboot), and Windows Explorer works the way it's supposed to! Looks like CSM was responsible for the bounce back to the original position.

So this looks more like a registry issue than an actual bug in Explorer. Certainly wasn't a Windows Update fix since my company has disabled updates and I haven't had an update in quite a while.

(I use Windows 7 Pro in a workplace network environment.)
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Anonymous

2013-06-10T12:36:21+00:00

There has been a report of a fix:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows\_7-files/windows-explorer-moves-the-selected-folder-to/78c18738-2818-43f7-8ca2-b3322cd8ff0d?page=9&tm=1370765518636

This is another thread about the same subject, posted by Michael GillPM.

Here is the main text of the fix:

Refreshing in my mind what the bad behaviour is, I opened Folder and Search Options, under the Organize menu. There on the General tab you see "Click items as follows". I don't like the single click approach, so I have Double-click... selected. But sometimes the registry needs to be bumped. So, I selected Single-click... and then Apply.

Then, after the screen refresh was finished, select Double-click... and click Apply.

After the refresh, click OK and close Explorer.

Then re-open and try the folders.

It works correctly for me now.

For you too, I hope.

I cannot confirm this - I don't have access to a Win 7 PC.

Can anyone else confirm this fix?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I tried the fix and now the folder jumps to the TOP of the window, and then less than a quarter of a second later jumps back down to the position it was in originally. I suppose it's better than jumping to the bottom of the screen but it still looks like a bit of a problem.

I did this test in a File Open dialog box since I still have Classic Start Menu loaded. I'll uninstall CSM when I get a chance and see if that helps.
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