Windows Explorer expands folders inappropriately, jumping the folder you expand to the bottom of the navigation pane

Anonymous
2009-10-28T18:12:01+00:00

When using a left-side Navigation pane, if there are enough folders in the navigation pane such that you have a vertical scroll bar, if you click on a folder with the mouse (so as to see the contends in the right pane), then expand the folder (either by clicking on the + symbol or with the arrow key), then the left pane will automatically scroll up as far as it can such that the folder you expanded is still in view at the bottom of the pane. This removes the folder from under your mouse, where it would be expected to stay.

This is certainly a bug, as it only happens the first time you attempt to expand a folder in the manner. After doing it once, you can scroll the navigation (left) pane so that the folder in question is back in the middle of the pane, and it will expand and contract as expected, remaining under the mouse.

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Anonymous
2011-06-30T22:14:30+00:00

Because many people seem to be interested in this issue, I'll post some info on my recent contact with Microsoft regarding this issue.

It seemed that everywhere this issue was talked about, all anybody would get from a Microsoft employee was a boilerplate "Thanks for your feedback" response. Never was the validity of the issue discussed or even acknowledged. I decided to write an email to the man in charge, Steve Ballmer, clearly laying out the problem with links to a walkthrough of the problem, this discussion, and the bug report with 220 votes (at the time). I realized that Steve would never read it himself, but I figured his email must get auto-forwarded to someone who might actually read it.

Two days later I got an email from an Advocacy Specialist from Microsoft saying a "grace case" has been created and the Windows Escalation Team would get in touch with me. The next day an Escalation Engineer emailed me asking when would be a good time to talk on the phone about the issues. So that he would be completely clear with what I was talking about, I recorded a screencast that walked through precisely what the issue was.

Edit: I've made a more condensed video demonstrating the "folder jump bug", view it here.

The end result of our talking was this:

  1. The engineers are aware of this issue.
  2. They may or may not provide a fix for it.

Nothing groundbreaking, but it's one more little push in the right direction. In my opinion, posting in this thread about the problem is virtually worthless. I would suggest:

  1. Voting up and commenting on the bug here:

http://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/621426/bug-when-expanding-folders-in-explorer-server-2008-r2-and-windows-7

He said that site is closely monitored by the dev team.

  1. Writing intelligent, profanity-free complaints that mention how the bug negatively affects your everyday file-management workflow. Email these up the Microsoft food chain until you get a response. You are a paying customer and you deserve to be heard.

I got tired of dealing with it, so am now using XYplorer when doing heavy file management. It stings to have to pay for a decent file manager, but that is life. If this issue bothers you at all, please comment and vote on the bug, and write an email.

UPDATE 9/13/11: Bug is still present in Windows 8 Developer Preview, see it here.

UPDATE 1/30/12: Finally we have a public acknowledgment that this is in fact a bug that needs to be addressed, and it will apparently be fixed in the upcoming Windows 8 Beta. This is good news, but I know I will be using Win7 for at least another year or two, as will many, many others. We deserve a patch to fix this issue in Win7. Until that happens, keep bugging Microsoft about it.

FINAL THOUGHTS: This is a real bug with 645! votes on their feedback page, however MS has no plans to fix it for their Windows 7 users. The bug is fixed in Windows 8, which means nothing for a vast number of us who have no plans to upgrade. If this bug really gets under your skin, I suggest installing Classic Shell, which has been recommended a few times in this thread. You can choose to only install the 'Classic Explorer' feature which fixes this bug among others, and even brings back the old File Copy UI which is so nice to have back. I've been using it for many months now without any troubles.

Also, to those of you who think they find a solution to this problem by simply changing a few options settings somewhere... thank you for your desire to help all of us, but you must not be having the same problem, and please don't post your 'solution' here. If you read some of the 29 pages of this thread, you'll see every solution imaginable has been suggested. This is a bug in Explorer itself. If you use Windows 7 and plan to keep using it, your options are 1) use Classic Shell, or 2) use a third party file management tool, such as XYplorer. If you stumble across this thread because you just noticed this bug, please vote up the bug, and do either 1 or 2.

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  1. Anonymous
    2015-08-10T05:54:05+00:00

    Some wireless adapters from TP-Link cause focus problems.  If you have a TP-Link UNinstall it, reboot, see if your focus problem goes away.  If it did, just reinstall the DRIVERS only and don't use the TP-Link Utility to connect to wireless networks... use the built in Windows "Connections are Available" icon down by your clock.  TP-Link had this problem on a few adapters, they did fix it, but who would think to check their wireless utility ripping focus away from the tray icon?  :)  I figured it out but I was surprised it was that and it wasn't easy figuring out WHY a customers cursor kept losing focus even when typing in emails.  Not saying that's why you had a focus problem but it's something to check out.

    In your case, refreshing folders rarely happens THAT often unless you have another program watching that folder, or some process or some networked other computer changing files in that folder you happen to be open on.  Then THAT would also trigger a refresh.  Normally you can just leave a folder open network or not and explorer should NOT be refreshing THAT often.  Unless something else is changing files in the window you have open thus triggering a refresh...

    Also, good tip on the slideshow...  never thought about that causing a refresh in explorer since the 2 are not exactly related.  Well, I suppose in a way it is.. without explorer.exe running there isn't a desktop from what I remember, or is it a taskbar... LOL... I forget now.  Been a while since I killed explorer.exe cleaning out viruses on someones machine.  Malwarebytes has taken all the fun out of manually cleaning out machines.  :)

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-08-03T12:49:43+00:00

    This also happens on a network where Explorer does a refresh about 3 to 5 seconds after the rename starts.  The only way I can create a network folder is to create it on my local hard drive and then move it to the network.

    I had this problem. it would keep refreshing to the top of the folder when viewing files. Even when creating a new folder using ctrl+shift+N it would snap out of the rename halfway leaving it just selected as "new folder". Someone said somewhere that it is a glitch caused if you have a slideshow set up as a background, it would refresh/snap/unselect every time the background changed. 

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-08-03T04:30:13+00:00

    I upgraded my Windows 8.1 Pro with Windows Media Center desktop computer to Windows 10 Pro which worked only after changing the default language and location to US. The upgrade would fail with a a message that said "Something happened". Google for a solution and that was it. Note that I have a fairly reasonable home built machine and I have been using Windows since Windows 95 came out. I can confirm that Windows 10 is really good. I would say very good. Windows Media Center is very reliable at doing  TV recordings off my DVICO DVB-T tuner. Kodi(XMBC) is nice, but if you live in Australia it's extremely difficult to configure and the others don't even come close. The upgrade was smooth after changing the default language and location to US, and I was surprised to my desktop looked the same as it did before the install.

    File Explorer in Windows 10 is exceptionally good. And guess what? NO folder jumping! I really like Windows 10 but until I can afford a TV tuner to suit Win 10 (or they bring it back) I'll stick with Windows folder jumping 8.1.

    My two Epson printers worked fine as did bluetooth headset on Win 10. I cannot understand why they can't issue a small patch to fix that folder jumping.

    What I am trying to say here is everything (except Media Center), worked on Windows 10, it's FREE for the first year of release and there is no folder jumping with a very much improved file explorer. So you might like to think that there is maybe too much work involved to fix that folder jumping problem that Windows 10 has been released to fix all problems. I made a backup with Macrium Reflect Free edition and it worked without any problems. Image creation within Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 also worked fine. I am now going to install Windows 10 on my other desktop which has Windows 7 on it.

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-08-03T03:27:10+00:00

    [FIX]?

    I had this problem. it would keep refreshing to the top of the folder when viewing files. Even when creating a new folder using ctrl+shift+N it would snap out of the rename halfway leaving it just selected as "new folder". Someone said somewhere that it is a glitch caused if you have a slideshow set up as a background, it would refresh/snap/unselect every time the background changed. 

    I went and looked at my background slideshow settings and reset them to my pictures folder where all of my slideshows are (it was actually reading from a cached AppData windows folder).

    Personalization>Set desktop background>re-select folder with background photos

    or just turn off slideshow and that should work too.

    let me know if it worked for you guys.

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