I would think developing a driver for a mini keyboard would be a simple task.
I'm pretty sure Microsoft simply decided there wasn't enough money in it to invest a couple hours of work into making a driver.
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Hi,
one year ago i buy a Xbox 360 Controller Made by Microsoft Corporation and a Chatpad for it. on the box was info about use for Windows-based PCs but until now no driver... so i am here to ask for some help. For now i can turn the backlight on sending
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x1f 0x02 # Init (without this, no led wil work)
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x8 0x02 # capslock
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x9 0x02 # square
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0xa 0x02 # circle
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0xb 0x02 # people
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0xc 0x02 # backlight
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x11 0x02 # capslock
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x12 0x02 # square
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x13 0x02 # square and capslock
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x14 0x02 # circle
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x15 0x02 # capslock and circle
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x16 0x02 # circle, square
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x17 0x02 # circle, square, capslock
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x1b 0x02 # makes led go on on keypress
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x1e 0x02 # Init2 >>> Ep6: [5] { 0xf0, 0x03, 0x00, 0x01, 0x01 }
ctrl 0x41 0x0 0x1f 0x02 # Init (without this, no led wil work)
i also have acess to USB protocol analyzer (but it is not mine... sorry) to have the info that travell between the controller and the Xbox
also we can recive one key press but after it is dead.... and i dont know why... a lot of people are working on it but microsoft made it so at leas you can help us to try make a driver...
2nd byte flags:
shift/capslock = 0x01
square = 0x02
circle = 0x04
people = 0x08
3rd byte keycodes:
1 = 0x17
2 = 0x16
3 = 0x15
4 = 0x14
5 = 0x13
6 = 0x12
7 = 0x11
8 = 0x67
9 = 0x66
0 = 0x65
q = 0x27
w = 0x26
e = 0x25
r = 0x24
t = 0x23
y = 0x22
u = 0x21
i = 0x76
o = 0x75
p = 0x64
...
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I would think developing a driver for a mini keyboard would be a simple task.
I'm pretty sure Microsoft simply decided there wasn't enough money in it to invest a couple hours of work into making a driver.
Please go back and read where I did say that I could see the advantages of having a driver for the Chatpad. As for my smugness in quoting myself, that was to bring attention to the points that others have missed without having to type the same thing over again. These same points that you seem to have missed also. All I did was state the obvious and seemingly little known truths that everyone seems to forget.
P.S. Now that games for windows is out and has a special software just for this, maybe now the chatpad will work. I haven't tested this because I gave my chatpad away.
I hold to a simple philosophy: just assume everyone's a piece of c.r.a.p. and then be pleasantly surprised if you find anyone who isn't.
@DatDarkOne
First, as others have pointed out, initially the packaging did say that the chatpad would work with Windows Live Messenger, so either your recollection is poor, or you did not buy the device when it had this packaging. Granted, it doesn't explicitly mention that it will work with Windows, but it also does not explicitly say that it will not, and given the fact that Windows Live messenger is a Windows based program, I figured there was an implicit understanding that this device would work with windows, especially when you consider my second point...
I bought the chatpad without even owning an xbox 360, because I had already purchased the controller with the adapter to connect to my PC. The chatpad very clearly and explicitly claimed to work with my device in a manner in which I intended to use it (i.e. I am gaming on windows, and I have Windows Messenger open. I receive a message and I can respond to it, without having to put down my controller, get up from my couch, walk over to the keyboard, then type my response, while I am getting fragged in the meantime in the game.)
If you really cannot imagine how a device like this would be useful with a PC that already has a keyboard attached, then you sir, have no imagination.
Lastly, A buy a lot of devices that do not have software media in the box, but that I can still get drivers for. Frankly I am always surprised when I get a device with a driver CD, given the fact that the majority of computer I see these days, (e.g. netbooks, slim laptops, mini-PCs, etc...) do not even have optical drives.
I have never responded to a forum topic here before, but this particular issue has bugged me for quite some time, and your response (quoting yourself) was so smug, I just had to chime in.
@Madrang (if you even still monitor your account)
I have never written a driver before, but this seems like it would be a worthy weekend project that I would like to work on. Could you point me to some good articles that might help me get started.
Cheers!
Sup Mattetch,
I have the chatpad also and I don't recall it ever saying that the chatpad itself would work with Windows. You must remember that the chatpad is a 360 add-on device. Now don't you think that it's a little redundant to develope a driver for a mini keyboard plugged into a controller that's connected to a computer that is already suppose to have a fullsize keyboard? I can see an advantage in having a driver that would allow you to map the extra buttons that the keypad gives you. It would also be up to the developers of games to decide if they would want the chatpad's keys to be used in their game. This is a device with a lot of potential for Windows PC based gaming, but that's about it until developers decide to use it. Also what do you expect from a device that doesn't come with any software media in the box. Just be happy that it works very well with the Xbox 360 as it was designed to do.
I hold to a simple philosophy: just assume everyone's a piece of ____ and then be pleasantly surprised if you find anyone who ain't.
It seems that I have to say this again. I choose to quote myself instead.
I hold to a simple philosophy: just assume everyone's a piece of c.r.a.p. and then be pleasantly surprised if you find anyone who isn't.
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