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Edge Chromium will not save passwords I have imported from Firefox after the 2004 update and that goes for Chrome as well. They are removed after a restart, or wake from sleep and now I have discovered that after I import passwords from Firefox and I verify they are there then close Edge wait several minutes then open it they are removed again. This is ridiculous to have to deal with and it did not happen until I installed the buggy 2004 update. Thank god my Firefox was not screwed up with this update.
Update: The only resolution I have found to solve this problem was to make a new admin user profile for myself on my desktop computer and I made a new admin user profile for my wife on her laptop. Once I did this the problem with Edge not showing passwords that I had imported from my Firefox browser was solved. I now do not need to sign in to my MS account in Edge to see or use my saved passwords. I have since uninstalled Google Chrome from my browser as I see no need to clutter my computer with two chromium browsers. I use Firefox as my default browser and Edge as my backup browser.
Installing or updating Microsoft Edge on Windows 10
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I am so glad that you were helped and that the problem was found and should be easy to correct. I had a feeling that with my making a new profile back in early August was what fixed mine. The way I found I had a corrupt profile was that one day I noticed I could not use the search bar within the Settings App. I could type in the search bar what I wanted to find but it would not expand on where I could find it so I could click on it. It would just sit with the dots going by and come up with subject not found. I also noticed that when I signed into my computer it would bypass the lock screen many times and go straight to the sign in screen. I made a new profile with admin privileges and sure enough everything worked as it should so with a little work I got my desktop set back up under the new profile and deleted the old one once I did. I did notice at one time that MS Store was having problems under the new profile like MS Store scan failure errors and not updating Apps so what I did was reinstall and re-register MS Store using Admin Powershell using the command below so be on the lookout for that little problem. Now MS Store works like a charm.
Get-AppXPackage *Microsoft.WindowsStore* | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register “$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml”}
I still think MS did something to the system security with the 2004 update and just to mention there were quite a few users including me that kept getting push notifications that there were problems with our accounts and when you clicked on message you would be taken to shared Experiences in Settings to reenter your MS Account password. I no longer get that message now.
I am glad you found the problem and on your way to get things back to the way they were. Have a great week and nice to have met you.
Cheers
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Hi ¡Firedog,
With the help of Nik S.- Independent Advisor we managed to work out that it was my profile that was corrupted and not the o/s.
My wife also has a login on the PC Upstairs so I set up her login to sync Opera and Chrome. Also set her Outlook up for her email accounts.
After upgrading to 2004 again my wife's Opera and Chrome are signed in and syncing and no request for a password Facebook is there and logged in on the tabs Outlook opened and did not ask for any passwords.
So I will set myself up a new profile and leave the old one just for the shares I have set up.
So nothing wrong with the hardware or software on the machine you said "must" be the cause. Turns out to be a corrupt profile.
This is the other ticket with what Nik did to help me.
Yes I did mention Norton as you put it. I have used Norton for years and will continue to do so. I am fully aware of the extensions that Norton offers and I do not use them and they will ask if you want them installed and they do not stealthily install them without permission. Norton works closely with MS in getting out patches. Laying the blame on Norton because Chromium based browser will not keep passwords and telling people to disable it is nothing but grasping for straws. The problem with Chromium based browsers that will no longer retain saved passwords since the 2004 update is a widely know problem and it has been submitted here in the Forum and in the Feedback Hub numerous times and many things have been tried to fix this including your suggestion. Maybe you should do some more research on this known problem and maybe do some research on the problems Windows Defender has caused as well as of late. There is no way that I will solely rely on Windows Defender to protect my computer. I am completely happy with my antivirus and my HP Omen Obelisk is just as fast as they day It was set up and I have never ever had to disable my Norton 360 for anything including to install updates. I think the best thing for DukeUK to do is keep signing in to his browsers to get his saved passwords instead of chasing ghosts. Like I told him when I made a new computer profile because my old one became corrupted it seemed that I had no further trouble with saved passwords and to this day I still no longer have to sign in to get my saved passwords in Edge. I still have the same MS account but new admin computer account since early August and it was worth taking a half day to set my desktop up all over again.
One Drive in my opinion is nothing but trouble to a lot of users for that tiny bit of cloud storage. I have my set routine for incremental backups, system restore points and full system backups and I do not need OneDrive to do it. I would much rather use Norton 360's secure 50 Gb of cloud storage if I wanted it instead using OneDrive's piddly 5 Gb and risk screwing up my computer files with it. I got rid of OneDrive and my computer is just fine and happy without it. I do not like that MS installs some third party App like OneDrive and also Apps from the MS Store Apps that you did not ask for on your computer as if your computer can't do without them and then has the nerve to put One Drive in the list in File Explorer like it is an important part of your system that you cannot do without. I have found no good use for it that I needed to keep it so I removed it and all its little tendrils it had throughout my system.
Cheers
Hi¡Firedog
Thank you for bearing with me and trying to help as best your knowledge allows.
"If your wife's machine is not exhibiting the fault after 2004 is installed, doesn't that tell you that its cause lies somewhere else?"
Yes it tells me that the issue was most probably caused by Microsoft Teams which is the only major difference between the two computers.
Sorry I did not go into detail on here but there are more detailed accounts I have posted elsewhere on these forums after I posted my reply on this post. I'm not sure if the solution is as simple as uninstalling Teams. I think the login to my work account in Teams is what's done the damage and I'm not sure it will be fixed by uninstalling Teams. Which is why I'm interested in a definitive fix for the issue on 2004 then I will try the update again. But till then I am happy on 1909.
A few weeks ago I installed Microsoft Teams on my Personal PC upstairs. After a lot of messing I managed to get it working. That is Windows 10 version 1909.
Friday I decided to upgrade the PC to 2004. All went fine till I opened Microsoft Teams. I got the login popup which has a check box at the top do you want your organization to control things on your computer which I unchecked. But then it has on bottom left "For this app only" and on right "Ok" and I inadvertently pressed OK, It then started a reconfiguration popup for security or something which I X'd out of. Then my Google Chrome, Opera, Opera Beta, Chrome Canary and Edge all lost their synchronisation settings and logins on tabs. So had to sign in to sync on them all and sign in to Facebook on them all. I also had to sign in to OneDrive and all my Outlook emails and Teams.
Anyway I rebooted and it was the same all sync settings gone again and had to sign in to OneDrive and Teams again (not sure about Outlook did not test 2nd time).
So I went back to my previous version of Windows 10 1909 and after signing in to everything it works fine again even after a reboot.
I upgraded to 2004 again to see if it would work this time and it was the same ... my sync settings and passwords are not saved after a reboot. So I have gone back to 1909.
I am sure the fault is to do with me putting Microsoft Teams on and the allow your organization to control things on your computer setting.
Please can you help and advise me if there is a way to fix 2004 or fix the settings that the allow your organization to manage your computer has messed up? I do not want my organization to control my PC. I just want to sign in to Teams only.
After upgrading to 2004 I had to sign in again to sync on Chrome, Canary, Opera, Opera Beta and Edge and sign in to OneDrive and Teams.
They will then work fine. But when I reboot Sync is paused/stopped on them all and I have to sign in to OneDrive and Teams again.
So I have to sign in to sync etc.. each time I reboot.
They all work fine on 1909 and retain their sign ins after reboot. But on 2004 they have to be signed in again after each reboot.
Where did I mention Norton ?
Sorry. I was replying to Don, who did mention Norton.
I have Avast which was disabled in order to upgrade to 2004 and it made no difference enabling or disabling it to the retention of passwords by the browsers and MS apps.
In order to be able to do their job, security programs have to insinuate themselves into the deepest recesses of the OS. Disabling some or all of its functions may not be enough to prevent interference with the user's legitimate actions.
Apart from that, some of them install extensions within the browser itself; these would have to be removed as well in order to troubleshoot their potential involvement in the faults you're seeing.
... your first assumption is erroneous
If you mean "only some users are affected by the problem you're facing," this is clearly true. There have been a handful of cases reported, but I for one haven't experienced the problem, and I've been running v.2004 for several months (currently on build 488).
Also this is patently not true since everything works perfectly with 1909 and it is only on 2004 that there are issues ... So it is not Avast at fault.
That is, I'm afraid, a non sequitur.
... I was always advised in my 40+ years in IT to avoid the use of words like "must"
That's a good rule; I should perhaps have written "most probably lies." However, I've seen enough cases in recent weeks to convince me that interference from third-party software is the most frequent cause of otherwise inexplicable problems with this new program.
Your last statement is revealing, and it shouldn't be too difficult to compare the configuration of the two machines (and the Google accounts involved) to pinpoint why one is affected but not the other. If your wife's machine is not exhibiting the fault after 2004 is installed, doesn't that tell you that its cause lies somewhere else?