Yes, so can I, now, in Retail 11. I don't want them, but it does stay. Why it didn't when it was first mentioned 🤷♂️
Cheers,
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No problems for me so far. Can't say I'm much of a fan of the shortened date on the Taskbar. I'd have thought 26/11/24, UK format, would be better if being shortened at all.
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Drew - 810 Reputation points
2024-11-28T04:08:35+00:00 Seemed to be a fact, not a silly excuse.
We get heaps of (new) Features to test that nobody necessarily or specifically requested. And we have every right as testers to say whether we feel any one of them is needed, wanted or have any appeal OR whether they work as prescribed or not.
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Drew - 810 Reputation points
2024-11-28T04:06:37+00:00 Yes, can't explain, but now, if I show seconds in retail 11, it is (no longer) going to AM/PM.
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Anonymous2024-11-28T03:42:03+00:00 Ok, thanks for clarifying.
Cheers,
DrewEvery time they add a useless feature, they also add a new bug. 🤣🤣🤬
Just my opinion here, Windows is made for everyone,
not just you. What you think of as useless maybe others don't.
Everything needs to be tested, if you don't like it, don't use it!!!
No user ever asked for the abbreviated date. 😂😂🤷♂️
The whole idea of insider testing is to report the bugs, not to ignore them, or try to find excuses for not reporting them. 😝🤬
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Anonymous
2024-11-28T03:29:29+00:00 It shows here 24 hours short time with seconds. 😂🤷♂️
The setting options just added a bug.
Works fine with English (Europe) or English (United Kingdom), but not English (United States) or English (Canada). 😂😂🤷♂️
Here you go. 👌
Edit:
The problem happens when they allow the Short-time and Long-time setting to be different, both settings should be either 12 or 24 hours, when they are allowed to be different that creates the problem.
Since both Short-time and Long-time formats are used in the System tray clock, they need to match. 😎🤷♂️
With English (Europe) they are both automatically set for 24 hours without any option to be changed while with other regional languages they can be set manually, and they can be set incorrectly by mistake, and that creates a problem. 😵💫
The 2 settings should be forced to match to avoid the problems described when they don't match.