Clean Install of Windows 11 Ni Preview Build works with Build 22557, but not with 22563, 22567, 22572, 22581, 22593, 25115

Anonymous
2022-03-11T03:48:13+00:00

I created all 5 installation ISO files for all 5 Builds, but only 22557 contains all the system Apps required for a full clean install, the other 4 are missing all the basic Windows and System Apps needed for a functional system. Also, the App required for opening Windows Security (Microsoft.SecHeatlthUI) is missing, all this makes the resulting system unusable.

Last one on 22557.

Microsoft.SecHealthUI Microsoft.SecHealthUI_1000.22557.1.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe

I noticed another issue common to all the Ni builds, if they are used for an upgrade or in-place they may only work correctly if they are done online allowing the check for updates.

If I use the option "Change how Setup download updates" to "Not right now", the upgrade or update in place still completes, but it creates a problem on subsequent W.U.

In this case W.U. goes in a loop trying to Download and Install the same Build over and over. Error 0xc1900401 is logged in that case.

I could not find a way out of that loop.

If I do the same upgrade or update in place online letting the Setup check for updates, as recommended, the process may complete correctly without subsequent W.U. loop issues, but the behavior is inconsistent depending on how the previous update was done.

The official MS Insider ISO 22579 includes all the required Apps and the Microsoft.SecHealthUI which is needed for opening Security.

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  1. Johnny55 5,155 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2022-05-02T18:23:49+00:00

    Good afternoon fg,

    My apologies as I never took into account the Apps that do not get updated via Store. I prefer to use 3rd party to create ISO so this never comes in effect.

    You are still getting all the Apps in SoftwareDistribution so you may have to combine couple folders to wimlib to create. You can figure out best way that works for you, but some copying will have to be done as I believe you point wimlib to the uup files folder.

    Regards,

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  2. Johnny55 5,155 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2022-05-02T18:17:35+00:00

    Upvoted FG.

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  3. Anonymous
    2022-05-02T05:15:47+00:00

    Hi Johnny,

    The Apps folder is copied in here C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\96f67d863d4234d4823cdee8752abeee

    As I said earlier, some basic windows Apps are not updated from the MS Store, so if I use the Apps folder downloaded from a previous build I may end up with an old version of some Apps.

    If I use the Apps folder from this Build 22610 to create the ISO with the next download, I will have to verify if SecHealthUI gets updated or if it stays at 22610. 😎

    Image

    Adding Apps . . .

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.x64.1.3

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.x64.1.7

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.x64.2.2

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.x64.1.4

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.x64.1.7

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.x64.2.2

    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.1

    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.3

    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.4

    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.7

    Microsoft.VCLibs.x64.14.00

    Microsoft.VCLibs.x64.14.00.Desktop

    Microsoft.WindowsStore_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.StorePurchaseApp_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.People_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.BingNews_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.BingWeather_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.ZuneMusic_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.ZuneVideo_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsAlarms_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsCalculator_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsNotepad_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsTerminal_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsFeedbackHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.GetHelp_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsSoundRecorder_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.ScreenSketch_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.Todos_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.XboxSpeechToTextOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.GamingApp_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.XboxGameOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.XboxGamingOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.XboxIdentityProvider_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.Xbox.TCUI_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.Getstarted_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.Windows.Photos_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsMaps_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.PowerAutomateDesktop_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsCamera_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.Paint_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WebMediaExtensions_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.RawImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.HEVCVideoExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.VP9VideoExtensions_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WebpImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_cw5n1h2txyewy

    Microsoft.SecHealthUI_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Clipchamp.Clipchamp_yxz26nhyzhsrt

    MicrosoftCorporationII.QuickAssist_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.YourPhone_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.549981C3F5F10_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    MicrosoftCorporationII.MicrosoftFamily_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool

    Version: 10.0.22598.1

    See the size difference below for Windows 11 Pro 22610 ISO files.

    1st file was a download from uup-dump, second one was created with converter 79f from

    C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\96f67d863d4234d4823cdee8752abeee

    with the Apps folder added in.

    Image

    Second file worked on clean install, will see on next build if I keep the same Apps folder of 22610.

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  4. Anonymous
    2022-05-02T04:34:21+00:00

    The weird thing about the error 0xc1900401 and the W.U. loop is that when you first reported it and opened a thread on that problem, I was not getting it except in specific cases very intermittently, now you don't see it anymore and instead I see it every time I upgrade with ISO from previous 22H2 build. 😝

    Weird indeed, but with so many variables, nobody else interested and silence from MS,

    we'll never get to the bottom of it.

    We need upvotes on the feedback reports.

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  5. Anonymous
    2022-05-02T04:21:53+00:00

    The weird thing about the error 0xc1900401 and the W.U. loop is that when you first reported it and opened a thread on that problem, I was not getting it except in specific cases very intermittently, now you don't see it anymore and instead I see it every time I upgrade with ISO from previous 22H2 build. 😝

    Weird indeed, but with so many variables, nobody else interested and silence from MS,

    we'll never get to the bottom of it.

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