64 bit emulator surface pro x

Anonymous
2021-02-24T14:23:41+00:00

I have been asking this question for some time now without a viable answer.

When I was convinced to buy this item, it came with a promise of 64bit emulator being very soon to follow, however this is now eight months later and still no idea how long we will have to wait.

I know that the emulator is currently available on the insider program, but all indicators are that its even more buggy than the somewhat limited 32bit emulator.

I'm surprised that Microsoft have not resolved the issues with this device as it would seem that they intend to peruse ARM technology in many future devices.

If the current state of play continues it could spell out disaster for this platform.

I have to say that there have been many updates for the pro x and it has improved over time, however many bugs and issues still remain and customer support for the pro x is at best very poor with the staff having little knowledge of the technical issues found on a daily basis.

Customer services have so far bricked the device on three occasions requiring hours of reloading and total loss of all data and without resolving the original problem (don't let them reset your device or set up phantom accounts) this doesn't work and creates more problems.

I have to say that given the choice again this device would not be on my shopping list.

The recent updates have made improvements and the device is now more stable than it was but without 64bit bug free emulator its very limited, Great looks and feel but don't judge the book by its cover, 

If you intend to use only store apps and basic 32bit programs for surfing and emailing all is good, but for any serious use it fails badly at present, which is truly a shame as the device has great potential but is poorly supported from my own personal experience.

At present its only a little above windows other failed ARM devices using RT which of course is no longer supported.

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  1. Anonymous
    2021-05-17T21:11:40+00:00

    Yes its not locked to the store but it may as well be as that is almost the only source of ARM 64 apps.

    32bit is dead memory limited and considerably slower than 64bit.

    If as I suspect you use only store software then maybe the pro x is OK 

    I don't download or play games on my pro x i use it only for serious purposes and 64 bit is a must.

    The pro x has improved with newer builds at least reducing system crashes and for basic browsing and so on its working mostly OK.

    I'm not against the device just the way in which it was and is marketed as I use the MS help me choose entered all requirements and was sold the pro x with after a phone call the promise of 64 bit emulsion being availability from Jan 2021, however recent conversations with support cant or won't acknowledge if or when this will happen.

    All this leads to my disappointment with this device.

    I am aware that many MS supporters praise the pro x and ask myself if they are misleading themselves, I say this as if this emulator never arrives and with no external ARM software and only the now dead 32bit emulator will this device end up as a almost RT device, After all any device is only as good as the software on it.

    So sorry to all its fans but for a serious user its extremely lacking.

    Well, just today Adobe has officially removed the beta tag from the ARM64 build of Photoshop.  Bluestacks (android emulator) has noted in the comments on version 5 beta system requirements that they are working ARM support. Another exciting development (from my perspective) is that OpenJDK 16 includes ARM support on Windows now. So the statement of "no external ARM software" is patently false.

    Sure native app support for ARM on Windows isn't happening as fast as on MacOS, but Microsoft isn't dropping support for Intel in the near future like Apple is expected to do, it's going to be a lot more gradual process. I would encourage you to contact any and all developers of apps you'd like to use on your Pro X and ask them to add support for ARM. The more request they get the more likely they'll do something about it.

    I also don't agree that 32bit is "dead" as there are still plenty of actively supported apps that have a 32bit version available. But I do agree with you that x64 translation/emulation is definitely need as there are apps that no longer have 32bit version available. The fact that this functionality has been in insider builds since last November tells me it is highly likely to be released to stable builds (most expect it this fall, but that's not a promise). I really don't see a repeat of RT happening. I can really tell that Microsoft learned from that attempt and has done a much better job with WoA this time around so I really doubt Microsoft is going to drop ARM support in Windows 10 at this point.

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  2. Anonymous
    2021-05-22T14:50:39+00:00

    I have had my Surface Pro X for over a year now.   That was probably a year after they came out.  Microsoft has BS'd everyone on this.  I love the laptop for its lightness and long battery life.  I am quite disappointed in them sandbagging their customers on the 64 bit capability.  This is something Apple wouldn't do.

    The above said, if you're doing basic Office 365 stuff, Teams, notetaking and alike - the laptop performs fine. It just won't run a 64 bit program.  The only thing that runs really slow is 1Password.

    It would serve Microsoft right if someone did a class action lawsuit against them.  They certainly deceived their customers.

    I have been asking this question for some time now without a viable answer.

    When I was convinced to buy this item, it came with a promise of 64bit emulator being very soon to follow, however this is now eight months later and still no idea how long we will have to wait.

    I know that the emulator is currently available on the insider program, but all indicators are that its even more buggy than the somewhat limited 32bit emulator.

    I'm surprised that Microsoft have not resolved the issues with this device as it would seem that they intend to peruse ARM technology in many future devices.

    If the current state of play continues it could spell out disaster for this platform.

    I have to say that there have been many updates for the pro x and it has improved over time, however many bugs and issues still remain and customer support for the pro x is at best very poor with the staff having little knowledge of the technical issues found on a daily basis.

    Customer services have so far bricked the device on three occasions requiring hours of reloading and total loss of all data and without resolving the original problem (don't let them reset your device or set up phantom accounts) this doesn't work and creates more problems.

    I have to say that given the choice again this device would not be on my shopping list.

    The recent updates have made improvements and the device is now more stable than it was but without 64bit bug free emulator its very limited, Great looks and feel but don't judge the book by its cover, 

    If you intend to use only store apps and basic 32bit programs for surfing and emailing all is good, but for any serious use it fails badly at present, which is truly a shame as the device has great potential but is poorly supported from my own personal experience.

    At present its only a little above windows other failed ARM devices using RT which of course is no longer supported.

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  3. Anonymous
    2021-05-22T18:33:22+00:00

    You are aware that Apple is the king of class-action lawsuits, correct?  

    Below is a shortlist of recent and high profile class-action lawsuits:  

    -iPhone 6 bendgate

    -slowing down their iPhones

    -MB keyboard issues

    -MB connectivity issues

    -MB green screen issues

    -MB thermal throttling issues

    For the complete list, goto Louis Rossman's YouTube channel. Warning the list is very long.  

    Additionally, I download the 64bit which came out in December 2020  emulator and   

    was able to run my statistical software (SPSS, AMOS, R-studio) on my SPX without any problems.

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  4. Anonymous
    2021-05-24T13:01:29+00:00

    I have had my Surface Pro X for over a year now.   That was probably a year after they came out.  Microsoft has BS'd everyone on this. 

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     I am quite disappointed in them sandbagging their customers on the 64 bit capability.  

    I am curious where you got your info about the 64 bit app support?  Is it sales people telling potential customers this feature is coming very soon or something? Does Microsoft actually say that x64 app support is coming soon in some marketing material? 

    I'm just wanting to understand where this incorrect information is coming from, because my expectations seem to have been very different from others regarding this. From my reading tech news, when Microsoft did finally say they were working on x64 translation it, no definite date was set; only a vague "more than a year away" comment. The only timeframe I've seen so far was when they announced it was arrive in an insider build late fall 2020, and that's exactly what has happened. I have seen no announcement on when the feature will be released to stables builds. Tech writers have theorized it'll be the fall 2021 feature update, and while they are quite likely correct, that's still not official communication.

    Side note: The Microsoft webstore actually has a note on the Pro X page that says if you use 64-bit apps then you should get a Pro 7. I have no idea how long that's been there, but hopefully that'll help avoid confusion until the 64-bit translation arrives.

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  5. Anonymous
    2021-05-25T19:38:36+00:00

    Yet another post with zero specifics and a lot of unsupported claims.  As a white-collar professional I can run all the apps I use on a regular that worked on my SP7:

    1. Statistical software: SPSS, R-Studio
    2. MS Office apps:  Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote
    3. PDF apps:  Drawboard PDF, PDF Pro Reader, ReadLoud
    4. Snapdrop

    The only downside is that my battery life has taken a hit and dropped from 11.5-12 hours of continuous YouTube viewing (40% brightness, battery saver on) to 9.5-10 hours.  

    UPDATE: After uninstalling the "KB5003266" update, battery life has returned to 11.5-12 hours...

    Did you try to run: 

    1. Matlab or 

    2. Mathematica 12.2

    in an x64 emulator? 

    I am not sure if Matlab in recent installations (2021a) can be run or installed in x32. If on top of that you can run Ubuntu with WSL2 and get Xwindows native GUI support and if you tell me yes for points 1 or 2 above that they were running without crashes, I may consider using Insider version of Windows for my Surface Pro X. I happily run Insiders´ version on some Intel machine. 

    Marcin B

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