Repeated Daily Crashes of Desktop Window Manager in Reliability Monitor When Using Pen

Anonymous
2020-11-13T05:11:27+00:00

Is anyone also having problems? I am all updated to 2009, all drivers updated. SFC reports no issues. Occasionally, when there's a crash my screen goes black for a few seconds.

Source

Desktop Window Manager

Summary

Stopped working

Date

‎11/‎12/‎2020 1:07 PM

Status

Report sent

Description

Faulting Application Path: C:\Windows\System32\dwm.exe

Problem signature

Problem Event Name: BEX64

Application Name: dwm.exe

Application Version: 10.0.19041.508

Application Timestamp: cd97c98b

Fault Module Name: HeatCore.dll

Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0

Fault Module Timestamp: c6130bfa

Exception Offset: 0000000000035afd

Exception Code: c0000409

Exception Data: 0000000000000002

OS Version: 10.0.19042.2.0.0.768.101

Locale ID: 1033

Additional Information 1: b111

Additional Information 2: b111fda7573a1e10441015376b653053

Additional Information 3: 02f1

Additional Information 4: 02f1489b0e3ef25dd4a9c89674c90c7c

Extra information about the problem

Bucket ID: 0329fc9be08ddbf2c3f9318478ced3bf (1439236000953848767)

Surface | Surface Pro | Install and update

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  1. Anonymous
    2021-06-25T18:16:47+00:00

    Hello,

    We are also experiencing the issue.  Important to note, enterprise environment, uses SCCM/MECM for updates.   

    We enable updates directly from Microsoft adn apply the latest drivers and firmware and most of these issues have gone away - although, some of our machine which are using docks needed additional firmware (see this link - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4023478/surface-update-your-surface-dock)

    Having said this, we have seen issues with upgrades - which show successful, however, are problematic if the drivers and firmware are not updated to a compatible version of the target OS version (in our current case 20H2).   

    Hope this helps.

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  2. Anonymous
    2021-06-10T22:58:35+00:00

    Yes I am the original poster, and I am still having issues eight months later. I am fully up-to-date on 21H1.

    Here's the error code information for a DWM crash just yesterday.

    Source

    Desktop Window Manager

    Summary

    Stopped working

    Date

    ‎6/‎9/‎2021 7:54 PM

    Status

    Report sent

    Description

    Faulting Application Path: C:\Windows\System32\dwm.exe

    Problem signature

    Problem Event Name: BEX64

    Application Name: dwm.exe

    Application Version: 10.0.19041.746

    Application Timestamp: 6be51595

    Fault Module Name: HeatCore.dll

    Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0

    Fault Module Timestamp: 54ab4a1a

    Exception Offset: 0000000000035b5d

    Exception Code: c0000409

    Exception Data: 0000000000000002

    OS Version: 10.0.19043.2.0.0.768.101

    Locale ID: 1033

    Additional Information 1: b111

    Additional Information 2: b111fda7573a1e10441015376b653053

    Additional Information 3: f2cb

    Additional Information 4: f2cb04e9d7bee3b9ba950fa6b38410fa

    Extra information about the problem

    Bucket ID: 3af1b524c9df8794d117428742533340 (1231526171809887040)

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  3. Anonymous
    2021-06-08T22:02:46+00:00

    UPDATE: I did a session today over zoom using OBS and it crashed repeatedly (6 times in 15 minutes) while using the pen with MS Whiteboard. It's barely usable in this state. This is on a brand new Surface with fully updated Windows. So no, this has not been fixed. I'm monitoring the temp and it gets hot but not super hot. About 61C.

    Thank you all for reporting this issue so detailled. I´m from germany and I am in contact here with the Support. I found out, what makes the screen blink and so told the support. In first step the HeatCore.dll in dwm.exe crashes, which then makes the "dwinit" (desktop window manager) of Iris Plus crash. HeatCore happens something to be, which makes the Pen commuincate to the Surface. Also there is a crash of the TconDriver, which is even a part of that Surface to Pen communication. We will see, if my reports will be taken serious or they are ignored. But very great, that you all shared this information over time.

    After updates, even 21H1 it continues to have the issue, so I can also agree on that point. Furthermore yesterday evening my pen also had like 6-10 times the black screen in 15 minutes, so it was very heavy.

    As you said, in this condition the Surface is barely usable...and not worth 1000€. Having that high price in mind, its a shame.

    Hopefully MS will wake up and do soemthing, but momently they are riding the hype wave with Sun Valley update, so lets see how long it will take. Please do continue wrinting about the problem, that makes MS see, that its still a thing and needs to be solved.

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  4. Anonymous
    2021-06-03T23:57:45+00:00

    UPDATE: I did a session today over zoom using OBS and it crashed repeatedly (6 times in 15 minutes) while using the pen with MS Whiteboard. It's barely usable in this state. This is on a brand new Surface with fully updated Windows. So no, this has not been fixed. I'm monitoring the temp and it gets hot but not super hot. About 61C.

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  5. Anonymous
    2021-05-19T09:02:39+00:00

    Unfortunately black screens are still there even after update 21H1.

    positive point is that they have become less frequent for me. I think keeping the device cool

    prevents some of these crashes.

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