After 'sleep' my Surface Studio 2 network connection blocks access to some websites

Anonymous
2019-08-26T21:56:11+00:00

Hi

I replaced my iMac with a Surface Studio 2 about a month ago. Running latest Windows 10 (version 1903, build 18362.295) and there are two things happening that I just can't get to the bottom of, and I am thinking in the end it's going to be a hardware issue.

  1. Whenever the computer wakes from 'sleep' only some websites are available in Edge or Chrome. Gmail? Loads fine in both Edge & Chrome. LinkedIn? Same. But The Australian (news website)? No. Gets DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN error. Same with many other websites, eg. Gumtree.

The only fix seems to be rebooting the computer. Then everything's working fine again, until the computer 'sleeps' again of course. 

A possible solution I've read about has been to change the network driver's behaviour in sleep mode to 'maximum performance' but these options are not even showing as available for my network drivers - there is no Power Management tab in the NIC's properties box. There are also no 'wireless adaptor settings' appearing under Advanced Settings in Power Options.

In addition, after 'sleep' the desktop gets a repeating 'refresh' flicker every minute or so as if 'sleep' has done something to the display driver too. I've used NVIDIA software to install the latest drivers, so that shouldn't be a problem either.

I am actually incredibly frustrated that I'm having to spend so much time trying to resolve this issue given it's a $5,000 machine and the iMac I replaced just worked nicely out of the box, like you'd expect. 

I can't find anyone anywhere who's had this issue of only certain websites being unavailable. Is there some way Microsoft can login to my computer and run diagnostics? I've run the Surface recovery/repair tool and it hasn't resolved the problem. I'm thinking the computer needs to be replaced.

Firstly, every time the computer wakes from sleep mode, most websites aren't reachable via Edge or Chrome. I can generally access google-linked websites (eg. gmail, keep, even analytics & google ads) and Microsoft websites, but not news websites or most other sites I regularly visit. Outlook can't connect to the server either. WiFi is connected, shows as normal with internet access, but most websites return DNS ERROR white pages.

Secondly, I get a flickering/refresh on the desktop icons every couple of minutes even after downloading the latest display drivers from NVIDIA.

I know people have recommended when there's an issue with GENERAL connectivity after Sleep that I should disable the network driver's ability to turn off in sleep mode, but I can't see that tab in the latest Windows settings these days. Used to be there on older versions but can't see it now.

Any help appreciated.

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  1. Anonymous
    2019-08-27T02:26:15+00:00

    I also have buyers remorse. I had the idea that a second iteration of a flagship device would have had nearly all the bugs worked out (also the specification of the first gen with that janky hybrid Hdd wasn't appealing). I also thought that being a Microsoft device from the ground up would make for a really seamless experience, I understand that supporting many many thousands of different device spec and legacy ware across hundreds if not thousands of manufacturers is hard. But I am on my 3rd device after having to warranty exchange the last  two, and issues with  Bespoke components for surface like the Marvell chip, wifi blue tooth and host of update f**k-ups have really shattered my illusions. If Microsoft cannot get thier latest flagship device working right what hope is there? That's why I hang out here and help out, not because I know better and am expert, but to stay ahead of any of these issues because they just seem to be never ending. Apple isn't perfect, but the BSD OS (iOS) has proven reliable and robust because it is so specific to the hardware up, any issues get stamped on very quickly, not **** like Windows devices seem to do.

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  2. Anonymous
    2019-08-27T01:52:38+00:00

    Hi Dom, thank you for the tips. I've gone through and completed each task.

    I'm confident you're right about the Onedrive issue.

    Regarding the modem sleep issue, although I've actioned your recommendations, I'm not sure I'm prepared to accept that my SS2 is 'just like that' and settle for a work-around on a $5k machine.

    I'll see if the fix works, and then consider taking it back to Microsoft for a fix or replacement. 

    Thanks again for your help.

    Cheers

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  3. Anonymous
    2019-08-27T00:09:19+00:00

    This isn't an issue I have had with my SS2, I would guess it is something to do with modern sleep (connected standby) and some interac tion with your modem router.

    Anyway, you can enable all your power options by following the instructions below.

    windows key + r and type regedit into the run box).

    Go to Edit > Find and type in "csenabled"

    Double click on CsEnabled (once you find it), and change the default value (1) to (0). Hit ok, and reboot your PC.

    Now, Power Saver and High Power should show up in your battery plans area.

    If you can't find it via the search  in regedit the full path is:

    HKey_Local_Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\CsEnabled

    The problem with this settings is that Modern sleep will not work correctly as it is a System on Chip low power component more commonly found on laptops enabling remote/timed wakeup. You will have to use hibernate instead of sleep, a minor inconvenience.

    The other issue you are having is almost certainly the Onedrive refresh. You can disable this by right clicking the Onedrive Icon on the task bar, choose >Settings>Back-up>manage back-up and unchecking the desktop save.

    If you want to reset power settings you just change the default value back to (1)

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