bluethooth mouse breaks wireless connection

Anonymous
2013-07-23T16:05:01+00:00

I originally posted this here: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1_pr-hardware/wifi-keeps-dropping-on-my-surface-kills-bluetooth/96faf92c-41af-4611-b5c2-c52702a3f241

Anyway, after a few reinstalls. I still have the same issue on my surface pro. When I go a few days without using my Microsoft Sculpt comfort Mouse, I have no problems. When I do use it, I get a total breakdown of wireless connections.  First my mouse stops responding. Then wifi drops, normally theres a lag before I see it show up on the wifi icon in the system tray. When I click it, it shows 'No connections are available', followed by 'troubleshoot' The only fix is to reboot, which it won't ever do properly after this error. I always have to hold the power button down and do a manual reset.

I also have random times when the Bluetooth goes out but comes back on. This can take about a minute to happen. When this happens, the wifi stays on.  I also have a lot of lag in the mouse while downloading/streaming anything from the internet.

Obviously this is Windows 8.1, running on a Surface Pro, using a Microsoft Sculpt Comfort Mouse.

Hopefully this gets fixed soon!

Thanks,

Kevin

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-05-20T11:58:20+00:00

    I want to add my experience to this thread even though it seems to be quite old and it's not a problem on  my Surface.  It's the first thing that comes up in a search. 

    May 2016 with new Dell XPS 15 and Windows 10.  Using a new Logitech bluetooth mouse kills WIFI.  Updated all my drivers, BIOS, and firmware and still happens.  Must be problem inherent to Bluetooth and WIFI signals interfering.  Switching to WIFI mouse.

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-03-06T15:50:43+00:00

    Good point. Usually the tech specs has the radio ranges it can operate in. I did find that it works on channel 1 and or channel 2. So I would have to guess running other devices on channel 11 is best.

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-03-06T15:07:51+00:00

    How is it going. Did you solve the issue?  You may have to isolate each device to see where it is.

    After reading a little on the Bluetooth tech specs it looks like there are cases where it can use 5ghz. Not 100% sure but this is a snip from the 2500 page Bluetooth rules and specs

    "If an implementation has knowledge of local regulatory constraints then such an implementation may be able to improve certain characteristics of the AMP link, for example by selecting a 5 GHz channel of operation to provide better performance with the collocated BR/EDR radio.

    3"

    I looked back through my notes and found where the overlaps are in the channels and the only clean ones are 1 6 11. If you have a device broadcasting on 2.413 2.437 is the next one you should use, then 2.462

    Here is a data table. If you are on 4 channels 1-8 will have some interference from the device on channel 4

    1 --  2 through 5

    2  --  1 through 6

    3  --  1 through  7

    4  --  1 through  8

    5  --  1 though 9

    6  --  2 through 10

    7  --  3 through 11

    8  --  2 through 12

    9  --  5 through 13

    10 -- 6  through 13

    11 -- 7 through 13

    12 -- 8 through 14 (if you are not in the US)

    13 -- 9 through 14

    LTE and WiMax interfere with bluetooth. So cell phones in the area my hurt the connection.

    I think another issue is a lot of people getting routesr for a 1800 sqft home but the router cover a 6000 sqft house. The router manufactures and tech sales people convince people they need the most expensive router. As a result we are polluting the airwaves with too many signals

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-03-06T13:51:28+00:00

    You posted in the Surface Pro topic and not the Surface Pro 3 topic. That also complicates the issue. <I didn't see the surface Pro 3 forum, I got here from a Bing search>

    You never mentioned you were not in a home/consumer environment, so that also complicates things.

    <Actually I did, on February 27th? > 

    The latest driver for the wifi in the SP3 actually lets you specify 5GHz only connections. <Thank you for finding that>

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  5. Barb Bowman 80,815 Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator
    2015-03-06T12:50:45+00:00

    First, apologies if the thread has become confused. My particular problem was the Surface Pro 3 (win 8.1) losing the connection to the MS Universal keyboard. It works fine at home, and failed here at work. I spoke to the guy who runs our wireless, changed my WiFi connection to 5Ghz, and it now works reliably.

    So I take it back, Microsoft DO seem to have implemented a wireless solution where the Bluetooth and WiFi can't play together nicely. The router is still broadcasting 2.4 GHz, so it seems the Surface Pro's receiver isn't selective enough, or its transmitter is bleeding.

    My thanks to those on the forum who raised this. I like the keyboard enough so I'll keep it and accept that it wont work on a 2.4Ghz WiFi.

    Now how Do I tell Amazon to cancel my return...?

    You posted in the Surface Pro topic and not the Surface Pro 3 topic. That also complicates the issue. You never mentioned you were not in a home/consumer environment, so that also complicates things. The latest driver for the wifi in the SP3 actually lets you specify 5GHz only connections. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/wiki/surfpro3-surfnetwork/specify-24-or-5-ghz-wifi-bands-selectively-on/0015e765-92ce-40c8-923b-9347b398f1b0

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