Surface Pro 4 - External screen keeps turning on/off (black flickering)

Anonymous
2017-06-13T21:32:22+00:00

Hi there,

I just made a video of my recent problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phi\_Yru77aM

You can see that when I'm using the built-in screen of my SP4 (i7, 16GB, 512GB) and only one 4K external screen (both at 60hz), this monitor keeps turning black on a random basis. All my drivers and firmware are up to date (Surface Dock and Surface). I even tried the last Intel Iris 540, same results. I tried another MDP to DP cable, same results. I tried another screen, same results. I tried different refresh rates, same results.

I bought this screen a month ago and I was working fine at the beginning. I strongly suspect an update or the fact that I tried to connect two 4K monitors at 60hz (and I would have damaged something in the process?).

If I deactivate the built-in screen, the problem goes away (something that I just found tonight).

Should I send the device in warranty or just wait for a software fix? The 4K experience is not there yet, I'm a bit disappointed I have to say.

Cheers,

D.

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-06-02T12:59:09+00:00

    I have now verified that I'm running the latest BIOS version and that it must have been auto updated by the Windows Update system.

    I have also found two articles describing all updates for Surface PRO 4 and Surface PRO (4 2017).

    They clarify that the newest graphics drivers are 21.20.16.4647 for PRO 4 and 22.20.16.4749 for PRO 2017 which perfectly explains why only some of us have got the driver update.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4037238/surface-surface-pro-update-history        (pro 4 2017)

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4023489/surface-surface-pro-4-update-history    (pro 4)

    22.20.16.4749  required to support Windows Mixed Reality features.   (Graphics 620 only)

    21.20.16.4627  improves DX12 and power performance.

    20.19.15.4463  improves system performance in some applications.

    20.19.15.4409  improves the overall stability of the graphics driver, resolves screen flickering in several popular applications, and cases where the display does not reinitialize correctly after the device resumes from sleep or hibernation.

    20.19.15.4364  improves display stability, system stability and battery life.

    20.19.15.4326  improves display stability.

    20.19.15.4308  addresses some display issues, including some scenarios that result in screen flickering.

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  2. Anonymous
    2018-06-01T16:06:28+00:00

    @enady - that really sucks. Mine is total fixed. Here is a dump from my system info

    [System Summary]

    Item Value 

    OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise 

    Version 10.0.17134 Build 17134 

    Other OS Description  Not Available 

    OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation 

    System Name xxxxxxxxxxx

    System Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation 

    System Model Surface Pro 

    System Type x64-based PC 

    System SKU Surface_Pro_1796 

    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7660U CPU @ 2.50GHz, 2496 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s) 

    BIOS Version/Date Microsoft Corporation 233.2110.770, 1/30/2018 

    SMBIOS Version 3.0 

    Embedded Controller Version 255.255 

    BIOS Mode UEFI 

    BaseBoard Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation 

    BaseBoard Model Not Available 

    BaseBoard Name Base Board 

    Platform Role Slate 

    Secure Boot State On 

    PCR7 Configuration Elevation Required to View 

    Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS 

    System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32 

    Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2 

    Locale United States 

    Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.17134.1" 

    User Name xxxxxxxxxxx 

    Time Zone Central Daylight Time 

    Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB 

    Total Physical Memory 15.9 GB 

    Available Physical Memory 9.64 GB 

    Total Virtual Memory 18.3 GB 

    Available Virtual Memory 12.0 GB 

    Page File Space 2.38 GB 

    Page File C:\pagefile.sys 

    Kernel DMA Protection Off 

    Virtualization-based security Not enabled 

    Device Encryption Support Elevation Required to View 

    Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes 

    Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes 

    Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes 

    Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes 

    Hi Andy,

    My system info differs as follows

    Yours:

      System Model Surface Pro

      System SKU Surface_Pro_1796

      Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7660U CPU @ 2.50GHz, 2496 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)

      BIOS Version/Date Microsoft Corporation 233.2110.770, 1/30/2018

      SMBIOS Version 3.0

    Mine:

      System Model Surface Pro 4

      System SKU Surface_Pro_4

      Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6650U CPU @ 2.20GHz, 2208 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)

      BIOS Version/Date Microsoft Corporation 108.1926.769, 06/12/2017

      SMBIOS Version 3.1

    and there are also differences for boot device, locale, time zone plus smaller variations in memory allocation.

    But recent posts have already revealed that a SP 2017 is not a SP4.

    And they have also revealed that the issue still exists for both models.

    I am now wondering about the bios version. I am not aware that I have ever updated the bios, but the version is newer than my purchase date (June 2016) and yours is newer than 2017 where the SP 2017 must have been released.

    Anyone knows how the bios is updated? There is no info in my Windows Update history.

    Best regards,

    Ena

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  3. Anonymous
    2018-06-01T12:39:21+00:00

    Thanks for clarifying, but just as Barb noted, the SP 2017 is not the SP4. And this thread is about the SP4.

    Sounds like it is fixed for the SP 2017.

    Are there any SP4 owners who have fixed the external screen flicker?

    Unfortunately, it's not fixed with the SP 2017 SP4.  Mine was bought just over a month ago and I have the problem.  Iris 640 graphics and core i7 7660U cpu..   The windows 1803 update had no impact.  Driver date is 7-25-2017 and version 22.20.16.4749.  I'm scratching my head wondering how Microsoft hasn't had a driver update for nearly a year for their 640 graphics.

    Screen blanks out most after a reboot for the day.  If I leave my surface running over night and turn off the monitor and then turn on just monitor the next day, it's not nearly as frequent.  Just bizarre.

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  4. Anonymous
    2018-06-01T11:46:45+00:00

    It is strange that some of you got a newer driver with 1803. Do you also have an Intel Iris Graphics 540?

    I don't have the 540 I have Iris Plus Graphics 640 (the top end i7 model). That could be the difference.

    I bought the top of the line i7 Surface Pro 4 when it was released, special ordered with everything maxed out. I have a 540. WTF? When did they start adding 640s to the SP4? And why is this happening in the first place? It was broken, fixed, then broken again... 

    If you bought an SP4 when launched, you have 6th Gen i7 skylake with the 540 GPU. In 2017, they launched a new SP4 with the 7th gen kaby lake and the 640 GPU. No WFT, this was published, but it was not significant enough to warrant SP5. A bit like the S version of an iPhone :-)

    I have the 2017 with the gen 7 i7.

    Check out the table Surface Pro Line on this wiki Surface on Wikipedia

    Thanks for clarifying, but just as Barb noted, the SP 2017 is not the SP4. And this thread is about the SP4.

    Sounds like it is fixed for the SP 2017.

    Are there any SP4 owners who have fixed the external screen flicker?

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  5. Barb Bowman 80,805 Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator
    2018-06-01T10:09:01+00:00

    the SP 2017 is NOT an SP4. While they didn't give it the SP5 designation, they

    did not say it had anything to do with not being significant enough an upgrade

    to get a version number bump. My opinion is that they were trying to emulate the

    Apple folks who don't give version numbers to their Macbooks etc.

    >In 2017, they launched a new SP4 with the 7th gen kaby lake and the 640 GPU. No WFT, this was published, but it was not significant enough to warrant SP5. A bit like the S version of an iPhone :-)

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