System Firmware Update - 12/10/13 fails to install

Anonymous
2013-12-10T19:14:53+00:00

Got the updates on todays patch Tuesday, but the firmware update failed to load.  Rechecking for an update does not give the opportunity to try and reinstall.

Anyone else having this problem?  I do notice that my telemetry driver is now loaded. so not sure what is going on here.

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Anonymous
2013-12-19T06:53:02+00:00

Josh,

We are working through the holidays to deliver a fix for the small number of customers that have experience decreased battery life and booting/sleeping problems as a result of the December update.  We took the update down to prevent additional customers from ending up in this state. All hardware failures, none of which are known to be caused by the December update, are being handled promptly through our warranty exchange policy.

The UEFI firmware that we released in the December update prevents some devices from entering sleep mode (and other low power states) properly during periods of inactivity. In order to release an updated version of the UEFI firmware we need to test the new version with the other drivers in the set to make sure we are not releasing yet another unknown state to customer machines. We certainly feel your pain and assure you that we are doing everything possible to make this right, as quickly as we can.

Thank you,

Tim

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Anonymous
2014-02-15T00:49:31+00:00

Greetings all,

We understand that the February Firmware Update has fixed the Battery gauge issue and the Firmware showing as failed. However we can see that there are some customers who are still experiencing issues with their Surface Pro 2 going into Sleep mode and Hibernate.

So we can better track those particular issues, we have decided to close this thread off. We encourage you to create a thread related to your Surface Pro 2 not going to sleep or not going into Hibernate. Please give as much detail as possible to your scenario.

We understand that the February Firmware update did not resolve the issue with waking from Sleep or Hibernate, as it was not intended to fix that particular issue. We are continuing to work to deliver a high quality solution. More updates will become available as this effort progresses.

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Anonymous
2014-02-13T22:35:08+00:00

The February update has resolved all issues for me.  The firmware installed with no issues.  Prior to this, I had all sorts of problems with the December firmware.  Sleep and hibernate issues were rampant.  The January update helped a bit, but the battery meter was always getting off calibration. 

With the February update, all issues have been resolved and my Surface 2 128gb is working as it was prior to the December updates.  Very solid and all is back to normal.

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  1. Anonymous
    2014-01-24T15:23:31+00:00

    I perform a similar test.  Since the 1st Jan firmware update, this is what I have found:

    SP2 (with Dec failed firmware)

    - Prior to the Jan firmware and after Dec failed firmware, consistently able to replicate an auto wake problem.  

    • After 1st Jan firmware, immediately observe the auto wake problem fixed.  Has yet to be a problem after several days.
    • However, since 1st Jan firmware have experienced incorrect battery "Full Charge Capacity" value one time. 

    - At that same time observed a 2nd Jan firmware update.  Loaded it, but no correction to Full Charge Capacity.  Performed up volume + power button reset to reset value.

    • Have tested about 15 sleep tests, >10 sleep to hibernate.  Ok so far.  No idea if this has any correlation to 2nd Jan firmware. 
    • Confidence somewhat shaken.  Still testing.

    SP2 (no Dec failed firmware)

    • Observed 3 Jan firmware updates over a series of days.
    • Note, this SP2 has not shown any issues after loading Oct updates.  Did not experience Dec update.
    • 1st Jan firmware update appeared to work ok.
    • After 2nd, had occasional crashes upon wake.  It appears the crash is related to hibernation.
    • After 3rd, tests show it wakes normally from sleep-hibernate. 
    • Still testing.  Confidence shaken.

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  2. Anonymous
    2014-01-24T15:14:56+00:00

    I found with sites IE11 hates with win7 64 - I do tools->compatibility settings->"then add the url to the list" and then it works

    had this problem with battle.net and others - although your one seems to work ok for me

    It is odd that Microsoft URLs would not work with the current version of Internet Explorer on the most common Microsoft operating system, Windows 7.  It is good to know that there is a way of patching this problem. but if Microsoft can't make its own URLs work with its own key software, it is not very focused on a basic part of interaction with customers. 

    In the golden age of Microsoft there used to be multiple ways of giving Microsoft a heads-up about a problem, and one frequently got an immediate appreciative response.  There is the charming story of the (now) Melissa Gate describing her first date with Bill Gates being at a later hour than she expected in the evening because Bill was going to a user group meeting.  She found that a bit geeky, but that was a big part of the spirit that made Microsoft great.  Today much of such activity is relegated to these forums, and there is almost no feedback as to whether Microsoft is paying any attention. 

    If I were advising the next CEO of Microsoft how to regain the magic of the golden age, a key part of that advice would be to have some real Microsoft employees with actual authority involved in these forums.  I've seen and written about such a model working in medicine, and the added value is tremendous.

    Well said. However you (and I) are living in a world that has run its course. Here I am writing this on a device that cost almost £1K whose life expectancy is determined by the  longevity of its battery... Which, if past experience with lithium batteries is anything to go by isn't too long - at least if I want to use it untethered - which is more than half the raison'd'etre of the Surface. 

    So I'd guess that within about 3 years it's only going to be useful when connected to mains power. Worse, judging by the posts on this thread, no one is even certain what the optimal recharging regime is, or whether or not this regime is incorporated into the Surface's obnoxious firmware.

    Of course Apple started this atrocious concept of disposable, premium-priced, computing devices. But aren't I correct in thinking that at least they allow for return to base battery exchange units, even if at eye-watering prices? I've gained the impression here that the Surface is for the trash-can once the battery is clapped out. If so, I bitterly regret buying it. For the same outlay I could have acquired a decent laptop/notebook plus one of the excellent Samsung Galaxy tablets.

    As for forums (fora?) like this one, it's become the absolute norm for corporations to offload support to its own customers. I'm told that Apple, a company of whose products I was an early adopter and enthusiast (from Mac Plus/SE up to the mid-90s), actually have decent customer support - as they should given their excessive pricing and ludicrous profitability.

    Having used Windows in its various incarnations both professionally and domestically since NT 3.n, the mess that they've made with the Surface range dwarfs any previous blunders. I certainly can't previously recall a situation comparable to where the "updater repair tool" is itself broken. Astonishing. And their lack of clarification of the Surface update situation is simply a disgrace.

    I wouldn't advise anyone to buy a Surface of any model. There is simply no compelling reason to do so and many compelling reasons not to.

    Roy

    Actually the surface pro 2 is a very good computer and has been very useful to me - it is the bad firmware update and lack of proper support that is killing it.  I now have two pending issues on my pro 2:  sd card causing high cpu (which i found temp workaround) 2. Wifi speed /bluetooth issue ( can only be solved if wifi is on 5ghz when certain bt devices are in use?).

    The last jan firmware fixed the dec one that messed up the hibernate ..

    I agree that this disposable stuff is taken too far. Gone are the days where you can just replace parts  .. but its the market that dictates that  - most people like to buy new stuff  not upgrade old stuff...

    I've got a win 7 HP laptop from 2009 that runs quite well and which I plan on holding on for a while. Maybe upgrading the 4gb to 8rb ram, and getting a new battery . Its so cool that you can take the battery out ...

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