Why is Excel 2016 for Mac so bad?

Anonymous
2016-08-27T19:22:32+00:00

I'm wondering what people think - Excel 2016 for Mac seems to be so bad that it must be intentional. Am I wrong? Is Microsoft still waging a low-grade war on Mac users by making their products subtly awful on a Mac? Is it just that they have really bad developers? Is it that the developers are good but the management somehow makes them do terrible work? Is it that whoever is in charge of designing Excel for Mac has an ex who uses it for his/her job and this person has devoted his/her life to making his/her ex's life bad in confusing ways? Has a nefarious actor infiltrated Microsoft in order to make their products just bad enough that companies will continue to use them but their awfulness will create a small long-term drag on the US economy? Answers would be appreciated. Thanks!

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-06-26T16:29:01+00:00

    Hi,

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  2. Anonymous
    2017-06-26T14:38:32+00:00

    It's a terrible sham and scam of a product. 

    I'm fully up to date on all apps and I even have three Office Business Essentials accounts. 

    You can't use third party add-ins on Excel. Plenty of buggy mouse and font problems on Excel too. Try to write auto text headers and footers on Excel, that's a lot of fun, not. Word also has a whole host of problems. Outlook is limited when compared with the PC version. 

    How can you sell something for over one hundred pounds sterling that is so utterly crap?

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  3. Jim G 134K Reputation points MVP
    2016-08-30T19:27:43+00:00

    Well, I love the conspiracy theories you have postulated. I suspect the problems are the result of much more mundane realities. What follows is my own private conjecture about the situation.

    MVPs get to meet the Microsoft Office for Mac team occasionally, along with the Office for Windows teams. Size matters. There are thousands of Office for Windows employees and a relative handful of Office for Mac employees. I think the #1 core problem is there simply aren't enough programmers and program managers at Microsoft who know how to write code for Macs. The door is always open. They ask us to encourage anyone who wants to work for the Office for Mac team to apply to Microsoft. There is a world-wide shortage of programmers in general, and there's a critical shortage of programmers who know how to program on the Mac. Finding and keeping (especially keeping) programmers and good managers seems to me to be the #1 problem.

    Then there's the general opinion that the web and mobile devices rule and the desktop is dead. No one wants to program for desktop applications any more. iOS and Android is where the action is. You would think Windows Phone would be attractive to developers who know Windows, but not so much.

    Email is considered a dinosaur. Who wants to have on their resume they helped write Microsoft Outlook? Sure, it's used by millions of people every day, but text messages are the rule today.

    I can't rank #2 #3 #4, etc. There are just some other factors that seem to come into play.

    * Mac OS. It changes like the wind. Trying to keep Office running on each and every update that comes down the pike is a huge problem. Sometimes I think Apple deliberately messes with Mac OS to screw Microsoft. For example, the next item in my list...

    * Sandboxing. Microsoft adopted sandboxing to keep Office for Mac "Mac-like" and because Apple won't let Microsoft sell Microsoft Office in the App store unless Microsoft goes along with Sandboxing. Sandboxing crippled Microsoft Office. If I were looking for criminal behavior of a monopolist, I'd be going after Apple about sandboxing and their strong-arm tactics about getting apps into the App store.

    * Cost containment. In a sense, maintaining Office for Mac and Office for Windows is duplication. You have to invent everything twice. Since Office for Mac sales are less than Office for Windows, Microsoft is keen on keeping the cost as low as possible. This, combined with not enough staff, is a big problem. Expensive to make features that don't get a lot of use are left out of Office for Mac. For example, Object Linking and Embedding (OLE) is very limited on the Mac. 

    Which results in a very weak version of Excel for Mac. I consider it to be only about 1/3 done. If and when the promised Visual Basic Editor ever comes along, then I'll consider it to be 2/3 of the way. When the missing SQL and data components finally make their way to the Mac, then I'll say it's complete.

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-08-28T14:42:41+00:00

    What is the current version of Office 2016 / Excel 2016 you are running ? Try installing all the updates and check the status.

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