Rotate PDF's in OneNote

Anonymous
2013-08-22T17:23:11+00:00

I noticed that OneNote always displays PDF's sideways after inserting them using the File Printout command.  I read some discussions where MS tried to say it had something to do with the printer driver in Adobe, etc., etc.  I don't understand why I have to install a 3rd party program (Onetastic) which does plenty of good things, but I really only use it for the rotate PDF menu that it provides.  Did the MS engineers just get too tired to include this very basic, totally necessary feature?

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-04-06T18:43:13+00:00

    Omar,

    I really like the Onetastic functionality you have created, but most of it really needs to be put in OneNote & supported.  Not only should it be valued more, but many companies do not have permission to install non-MS Add-ins (yes, like mine).  I cannot disagree entirely with them as each request needs to be checked for security and stability reasons and if it is a trusted publisher such as MS there is less concern.

    From what you have said it sounds like OneNote is not being funded sufficiently for improvements as it should.  I say this because although some good functionality has been added since 2003, not much has changed, even in the areas that REALLY need to.  If it is being funded as much as it is currently being marketed we would see some huge changes.  This is being done better for the universal app, but unfortunately not for the desktop version (which in my opinion is more useable, stable, and powerful for real note taking).

    Thanks for developing the Onetastic workaround, but I really hope MS integrates it into their software along with some other crucial improvements.

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  2. Anonymous
    2017-04-06T09:56:26+00:00

    Hi ejlev, I am the developer of Onetastic addin and also a developer in the Microsoft OneNote team.

    To explain the situation a bit, when you insert a PDF file into OneNote, you are actually printing it, that is why it is called "File Printout". OneNote does not know anything about the PDF file format (or other files that you are inserting through File Printout command). The way it ends up in OneNote is that OneNote invokes a "print" command on the file which launches the application that is registered for the file format (in this case Adobe Reader) which then prints it to OneNote. The registered application decides which orientation the page should be printed. The result of the printing is a bunch of images in OneNote which we call "printouts".

    OneNote has a rotate feature for images, but not for printouts. Printouts work differently then images so the image rotate feature doesn't work on printouts. OneNote has to do something different to handle the case of printouts, which it isn't doing. Why is this feature missing? Well, it was missing in 2010, and I don't know why because I wasn't part of the OneNote team back then. We tried to bring this to 2013 but the issue was a bit complicated and we didn't have enough time to solve it completely and properly. Therefore it was left out. You see when you spend time on one feature, you can't spend that time on another. So you have to prioritize your work and spend your time on the most important things. You may call this as "the MS engineers just get too tired to include this very basic, totally necessary feature", but engineering is a trade off. I wish we had all the necessary features for our customers, but at the same time we have to stop somewhere to be able to ship the software. 

    After we ended up not doing this for 2013, I decided to write an add-in for this and give it away freely. This was actually how I started working on Onetastic.

    One suggestion I can give is, instead of using Insert > File Printout, open the file first and then use Print command in the application (e.g. Adobe) and choose your orientation there. This will do the same insertion, but with the correct orientation.

    Let me know if you have further questions. I know that what I tried to explain won't help with your frustration of not having this built-in. Hopefully you like Onetastic.

    not a real solution. You should find one as the original OneNote printout is an actual XPS file.

    Workaround: copy image from OneNote to Paint. Rotate then copy back.

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  3. Anonymous
    2017-03-09T16:07:59+00:00

    Printing to OneNote in Landscape solved this for me. Thanks for the extensive background on the issue.

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  4. Anonymous
    2017-02-12T18:47:24+00:00

    You can set landscape in Send to Onenote itself, just before printing.

    Bernd

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  5. Anonymous
    2017-02-12T00:05:29+00:00

    I agree that one should be able to do this in every pdf reader. But at least for me, I couldn't get acrobat reader to do this so I used a different reader that worked. :)

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