PowerPoint 2013: Images in presentation disappear - and are replaced with 'The image part with relationship ID rId2 was not found in the file'

Anonymous
2013-05-07T17:10:57+00:00

I've used PPT for 20 years and started using PowerPoint 2013 through Office 365 2 months ago and this has happened to me 4 times. 

1.  I create a presentation (Using copy and paste and/or insert to include pictures and other images)

2.  After working on the presentation for a while I save the file and realize all the images (except smart art) are gone and replaced with the message above.

3.  I have reinstalled PPT 2013 and it happened again.  I have documents that are 50 pages long and have had to insert new images (Hours of lost work) then 3 days later it happens again.

Not sure if it is related but I've noticed that once in a while when I try to save a document (Happens in Word and Outlook Calendar items) it tells me the file is locked and makes me save under a new name.

This is really a show stopper.  Any suggestions?

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Anonymous
2014-01-20T22:53:18+00:00

UPDATE:

I know it's been a while since our last update but that's only because we've been hard at work on a solution and doing our best to ensure that it really does eliminate the problem.

Good news - we think we've finally fixed all instances of this bug. The update is now available and how you get it will depend on your version of Office:

  • Click-2-Run: you should receive the update automatically
  • "Traditional" install: update will be available via Microsoft Update

The correct build number once the update is installed is:

  • MSI: 15.0.4613.1000
  • C2R: 15.0.4615.1001

Obviously we'd love your feedback once you've installed the update. If for some reason you continue to hit the issue please post back here and be sure to include which build of PowerPoint you have as well as any other sync/anti-virus software you may have installed.

We're deeply committed to eradicating this issue and while we've done extensive testing there's always the possibility that something slipped through the cracks.

Thanks,

Dan

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  1. Steve Rindsberg 99,176 Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator
    2014-03-18T19:33:30+00:00

    The term "red-x" actually comes from the fact that PPT usually puts a red x or an icon with a red x in place of images that it can't draw for whatever reason.  And the fact that it's somehow removed them is a pretty good reason for not being able to draw them later.  Note that "pretty good" doesn't imply "acceptable". ;-)

    Yes.  Anything with 365 in it refers to a subscription version of Office.  But there are variations of that and variations of each of these variations leading to woe, tearing of hair and rending of garments for anyone mad enough to try and sort it all out.  MS peeps included.

    You can tell if you have the so-called MSI version (ie, one that installs from a good old low-tech old-fashioned luddite-beloved installer file that ... um .. works) by looking at File | Account.  If you have an option there to turn updates on / off, it's a downloadable/click-to-run non-MSI version.  

    I think the patches are intended for the MSI versions only; I've got a question into some people I know at MS about this and whether any hotfixes apply to the downloadable versions at all.

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  2. Anonymous
    2014-03-18T16:32:02+00:00

    I have had this happen to me three times in the last month, and of course its the night before the presentation. 

    The hardware is a Surface 2 Pro (8 GB) w/ factory image and Office Professional Plus 2013 (v15.0.455.1512)

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  3. Anonymous
    2014-03-18T15:48:24+00:00

    Of course I am aware of the perceived vs. real difficulty of fixing problems in software, I'm a developer/computer scientist myself. I'm just frustrated, because the ratio of how much money they make with this product and how quickly they fix "red-Xs" (I like this description for "deal-breaking" bugs) seems to be way off. But of course, this might just be my personal impression, since I am personally affected and I have no insight into their development process whatsoever.

    >> One hint is that the KB article talks about PowerPoint 2013 but makes no mention of Anything 365.  That seems to be MS_BaffleSpeak for "This only applies to the enterprise versions of Office, not the consumer ones". 

    Isn't 365 just the name for the subscription type of office? When I download it onto my workstations, it still seems to be named "PowerPoint 2013".

    What also confused me, was the description of the hotfix, it didn't seem to match the problem we encountered.

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  4. Steve Rindsberg 99,176 Reputation points MVP Volunteer Moderator
    2014-03-18T15:30:00+00:00

    >> Some of them solved it, yes. However, it is unbelievable, that turning off any software that actively watches files is considered a solution over such a long time period.

    As others have mentioned, it's a workaround, not a fix.  If your tooth hurts and the dentist can't figure out why, you chew on the other side of your mouth.  Not because it's a great idea, but because it causes you less pain.  

    >> I am aware that these are supposed to be temporary fixes, but it's time for a permanent fix, don't you think?

    Of course.  So do we all, Microsoft included.  But sometimes what appears to be a simple problem isn't.  Out here in Real World, some people have had this problem regularly.  Others haven't seen it at all.  Without being able to reproduce it reliably at MS, there was nothing to put under the microscope and examine.  

    And once they locate the problem, it's not always a simple matter of changing a few lines of code.  There might be major changes needed, and then lots of testing to make sure that a change to fix one problem doesn't cause other problems in a different part of the program, or for different users.

    And I'd imagine that since the problem appears to be related to automatic backup software, they probably want to test with all of the different software they can.  It wouldn't make them very popular to release a fix that works with OneDrive but not Dropbox.  ;-)

    >> Well, I don't think they are taking the problem serious enough.

    We're all entitled to our opinions.

    Believe me, I understand the frustration and anger.  I haven't (so far) had the problem bite me, but there are others that I run into constantly - I've been complaining to MS about one since Office 97 was first released.  I have no hope of it ever getting fixed.  This red-x thing though ... I think we'll see a fix, though obviously not as soon as any of us would LIKE to see it.

    >>  I also tried the "hotfix" listed and got the same message as someone else on the thread saying "this fix doesn't apply to anything on your machine".... 

    Thanks for the URL.  This brings up another continuing frustration:  MS itself doesn't seem to understand the differences between all of the various Office 2013 versions; it certainly hasn't been able to make the differences clear to the public.

    One hint is that the KB article talks about PowerPoint 2013 but makes no mention of Anything 365.  That seems to be MS_BaffleSpeak for "This only applies to the enterprise versions of Office, not the consumer ones". 

    Normally you'll get updates for Office 365 automatically if updates are turned on, or not at all if they're off.  But this does bring up an interesting question.  ARE there optional hotfixes for O365?  I'll see what I can find out about that.

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