hate the new outlook that is replacing win mail. any alternative that is similar to win mail that is simple and fast to load?

Agree with you. Almost every day I am forced to spend more time resolving issues with Outlook. Unfortunately, as long as I use Windows I am locked into Outlook. What is appalling is based upon the number of issues raised with Outlook, one would have thought Microsoft would have been more responsive to the user community. Sadly, that is not the case. What a pity!

what is with the web vision outlook.live.com ? i keep get logout from my link and have to login again but the microsoft.com page still stays there ? it use to change to the outlook page ?

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I can't believe how lacking the "new" Outlook is. There are so many features missing - this totally feels like a beta. I'm disappointed that Microsoft is no longer concerned with putting out a quality product. What they are putting out is fine for non-business use, but nowhere near where it needs to be as a viable corporate product.

I'm right there with you. I just auto-renewed on December 1st. If I would have know that I was going to be forced to use the new versions they came out with I would have cancelled and gone elsewhere.

Now I have to wait a whole year to move to something else. I hate what they have done to all their platforms. It doesn't even look professional, it looks like a child's app.

I also don't have the time to relearn all the changes so when it diverted to the new platform this morning I was thrown off and it effected my bottom line. That pissed me off..

By the end of 2025 I will have everything migrated elsewhere. Something that is not an app on my computer that I have no control of.

I'm right there with you. I just auto-renewed on December 1st. If I would have know that I was going to be forced to use the new versions they came out with I would have cancelled and gone elsewhere.

Now I have to wait a whole year to move to something else. I hate what they have done to all their platforms. It doesn't even look professional, it looks like a child's app.

I also don't have the time to relearn all the changes so when it diverted to the new platform this morning I was thrown off and it effected my bottom line. That pissed me off..

By the end of 2025 I will have everything migrated elsewhere. Something that is not an app on my computer that I have no control of.

if what you "auto-renewed" was Microsoft 365 or another version of Office that provides Classic/Legacy Outlook that's still installed and can be used

1. Verify that Classic Outlook is the default email program.
2. When you right-click New Outlook in the Start Menu, is uninstall an option? How about in Settings > Apps?

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