Outlook.com Moving Addresses From Bcc Field to the TO Field When Email is Sent via Desktop Email Client

Anonymous
2016-05-18T12:39:51+00:00

I am using and have been using "Postbox", a desktop email client, to send and receive all my emails through my Live account on "Outlook.com" using IMAP. Everything has worked perfectly between "Postbox" and "Outlook.com" for several years and I haven't changed anything on my end. About two weeks ago, I started having problems. Now, when I put a single name or a group list into the Bcc field on my "Postbox" desktop email client and send that email through my outgoing SMTP server at "Outlook.com", the email goes through "Outlook.com" and "Outlook.com" moves all the names from the Bcc field to the TO field. I am assuming this has something to do with the new changes associated with the updated "Outlook.com/Outlook Mail" web mail process.

Notes:

  1. When I do the same thing using "Gmail" for my outgoing SMTP server, my names stay in the Bcc field as they should.
  2. My Outlook.com web page now shows Outlook Mail in the top left corner.
  3. I am using imap-mail.outlook.com Port 993 and smtp-mail.outlook.com Port 587 for my servers. I tried switching to imap-mail.live.com and smtp-mail.live.com as one MS web site suggested regarding the new changes to Outlook Mail but those new setting would not connect.
  4. I tried using Mozilla Thunderbird instead of Postbox as my desktop email client and the same problem occurred in that the name in my outgoing Bcc field was put into the To field after the email was processed through Outlook.com.
  5. Based on all of the above, I believe the problem has something to do with the way the new Outlook Mail is trying to process names from the Bcc field in emails sent from my desktop email clients.

I hope someone from MS can look into this problem and get back to us.

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Anonymous
2016-10-27T19:01:55+00:00

Thank you for the thorough feedback Laurel. The post-mortem investigation (as we call it) into the support escalation is underway.

Glad that the fix has reached you. For John and everyone else, the fix has reached about 75% of servers now. There will be a long tail of stragglers but we are working to reach 100% by the end of next week.

Regards,

Sean

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-07-16T17:44:59+00:00

    Laurel

    Disclaimer

    I am but a volunteer here

    I have been following your thread since its inception.  This is a peer to peer site staffed mostly by volunteers who have little or no contact to MS.

    Because of your extensive testing I have escalated this to someone who MIGHT be able to help.

    It is up to MS how this is dealt with.

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-07-16T15:02:23+00:00

    Woodg:

    I thank you for asking - Yes I have. But, who knows when it will be addressed.

    I am hoping for several things in the meantime by posting on this forum:

    1. That I can help identify results and findings for other people who are having the same problems so they have a better understanding of what is going on and why it is happening to them. That way they can make a decision about how they want to proceed.
    2. In hopes that someone reading this forum might come up with some workable solutions in the interim until Microsoft fixes the bug or non-Microsoft desktop email program vendors (e.g. Mailbird, Postbox, Thunderbird) update their products to use Microsoft Exchange. I know I can change my outgoing SMTP to use another email service provider such as Gmail to send my emails. But, some of us want to keep using our Outlook.com, Live.com, Hotmail.com and MSN.com email addresses to get responses.
    3. Maybe some of the Microsoft Forum Moderators and MVPs might understand the seriousness of this problem and use their influence to communicate with Microsoft Technical Support personnel to get the problem resolved sooner.

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-07-16T13:31:37+00:00

    Have you reported this issue to Microsoft?

    Microsoft does not use these forums to find issues. You need to report the issue to Microsoft using the Feedback option in Outlook.

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-07-16T12:25:41+00:00

    Problem

    Bcc addresses do not process properly (see situations below) when three events occur concurrently:

    • After a person’s Microsoft Outlook.com account is migrated over to the new Outlook Mail processing (“Outlook Mail” shows in the upper left corner of the Microsoft Outlook web page instead of “Outlook.com”);
    • Emails are sent using a non-Microsoft desktop email program (e.g. eM Client, Mailbird, Postbox, and Thunderbird); and
    • Emails are sent using IMAP through the outgoing SMTP Outlook.com server (smtp-mail.outlook.com Port 587).

    Situations

    1. When a person does not put an email address in the “To” and “Cc” fields, and puts an email address or a group list into the “Bcc” field, the email addresses from the “Bcc” field are moved to the “To” field after the handoff to the SMTP Outlook.com server.
    2. When a person puts email addresses in the "To", "Cc", and "Bcc" fields, the result is that the email addresses used in the "To" and "Cc" fields receive their emails and the email address used in the "Bcc" field never receives the email after the handoff to the SMTP Outlook.com server.

    Findings

    1. “Bcc” addresses are processed properly when a person uses a web browser to send the emails.
    2. “Bcc” addresses are processed properly when a person uses the Microsoft desktop email program (Windows 10 Mail App).
    3. “Bcc” addresses are processed properly after a person’s Microsoft Outlook.com account is migrated over to the new Outlook Mail processing and that person uses a non-Microsoft desktop email program with connections using Microsoft Exchange (e.g. an option in eM Client).
    4. “Bcc” addresses are NOT processed properly after a Microsoft account is migrated to Outlook Mail as shown in the problem and situations above.

    Questions

    1. Is Microsoft going to fix the bug that prevents “Bcc” addresses from processing properly as stated in the problem and situations above after a Microsoft account is migrated to Outlook Mail? If yes, when?
    2. If Microsoft is not going to fix the bug, is Microsoft going to require non-Microsoft desktop email programs to provide connections through the Microsoft Exchange so “Bcc” addresses are processed properly?

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