Total Boot Failure After Removing Second SSD - Win 10

Anonymous
2022-07-14T20:03:36+00:00

Windows 10: I have a primary disc for the OS and a secondary disc for just data (or maybe not???). I took out the secondary disc (in order to a bigger one in) and rebooted. I got a boot failure and Windows automatically tried to repair the issue, but it failed. I then replaced the secondary disc (so system is back as it was), but this did not solve the problem. During the "automatic repair process" it must have broken something.

The only thing that comes to mind is I may have split the pagefile to both discs, so when I took the data disc out it may have gotten confused.

So far, I have seemingly tried all of the "safe mode" options, other than than an option to restore a new Win 10 OS (last resort). I'd like to be able to at least somehow get into the OS so I can can deactivate licenses and put them on a new computer. At least some way to transition stuff to a new computer.

I guess in prior Windows versions (I'm still old school dating to 3.11), but this thing would not have happened. It all started with an automatic repair process that changed things such that putting the drives back "as is" didn't resolve it.

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  1. Anonymous
    2022-07-16T05:27:07+00:00

    That's right. BCDBoot regenerates the boot files. It's more likely to succeed, I think, if your installation is UEFI. I have a suspicion your EFI partition may be on the secondary disk while the Windows partition is on the primary. That is why it wouldn't boot without it. If the simple form of BCDBoot won't work, we'll give it more parameters. Good luck.

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  2. Anonymous
    2022-07-16T06:25:17+00:00

    Licensing data is on Microsoft servers enabling disk drive replacement or reinstalling Windows.

    Consider performing a custom install.

    For a custom install files are saved to Windows.old and a fresh version of Windows is installed.

    Drivers and applications need to be reinstalled.

    Important files are restored from Windows.old.

    A custom install is performed using a bootable Windows Media Creation Tool (MCT) (Windows 10 iso).

    These are some links / tutorials:

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/148005-how-restore-files-windows-old-folder-windows-10-a.html

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/9230-download-windows-10-iso-file.html

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/120352-custom-install-windows-10-a.html

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/148005-how-restore-files-windows-old-folder-windows-10-a.html

    If there are no files that need to be backed up then perform a clean install:

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1950-clean-install-windows-10-a.html

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  3. Anonymous
    2022-07-16T15:29:22+00:00

    Some udpates. I ran BCDBoot  E:\Windows     

    Is E:\ correct? This is the largest partition and also the one that windows is (but not sure if its actually a boot partition).

    Before BCDBoot, it would be up to the recovery menus (the same ones as you have when you boot from a install disc and choose repair). However, after running BCDBoot, this is what the system boots to now:

    Your PC/Device needs to be repaired.

    The operating system couldnt be loaded because the digital signature of a file or one of its dependencies couldn't be verified.

    File:\Windows\system32\winload.exe

    Error code: 0xc000428

    You'll need to use recovery tools. If you have any install media (like a disc or USB device), contact...


    For reference, this is from List Vol. The weird thing is that I don't know what "Data" is. Maybe its a boot drive? I also don't know what Volume 3 is.

    Volume 0 G DVD-ROM 0B

    Volume 1 C Data Partition 100MB

    Volume 2 E OS Partition 237GB

    Volume 3 F Partition 860MB

    Volume 4 D ESD-USB Removable 14GB

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  4. Igor Leyko 112.4K Reputation points Independent Advisor
    2022-07-16T17:15:52+00:00

    Do you still have boot failure and automatic repair process?

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  5. Anonymous
    2022-07-17T01:36:01+00:00

    (1) I thought you had two disks. Why does your List Vol seem to show only one? That simple form of BCDBoot was supposed to find the EFI (if a UEFI install) or System Reserved (if Legacy) on its own to put new boot files inside. And my suspicion was that it is on your secondary disk. But leave the secondary unplugged for now. Later, we'll want to plug it in to see what partitions are on it. I don't want to see another EFI or System Reserved on it.

    Did the "BCDBoot  E:\Windows" say it completed successfully?

    (2) This List Vol, however, does suggest a complete installation is on the primary disk. But you left out the File System column. The 100 MB partition is the right size for either, but EFI would be FAT32, & System Reserved would be NTFS. Is the 100 MB partition FAT32 or NTFS? Going also by size, the 860 MB partition is the Recovery partition. E is the only one large enough to be the Windows partition. "OS" is the label you should see for it in File Explorer.

    Volume 0 G DVD-ROM 0B

    Volume 1 C Data Partition 100MB <<<EFI or System Reserved?

    Volume 2 E OS Partition 237GB <<<Windows partition

    Volume 3 F Partition 860MB <<<Recovery Partition

    Volume 4 D ESD-USB Removable 14GB <<<Win 10 Installation USB drive

    (3) "Data" as a label seems wrong whether that is EFI or System Reserved. It should be "ESP" (EFI System Partition) like mine, or it should just say "System Reserved". That makes me think the partition's type code is wrong which also is a reason for a failure to boot. Or, maybe, if it's a System Reserved partition, it just needs to be set Active. Let's try...

    DiskPart <<<Enter DiskPart

    List Disk <<<Is there an asterisk under GPT...?...

    DISKPART> List Disk

    Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt

    ---------- -------- -------- --------- ---- ----

    Disk 0 Online 931 GB 2048 KB * <<<It's UEFI if an asterisk is there

    List Vol <<<Is Vol 1 still 100 MB & still have letter C?

    Select Vol 1 <<<Then select it

    Detail Part <<<Show its details

    Exit <<<Exit DiskPart

    DIR C:\ /a <<<Let's see its folders/files

    (a) My Detail Part shows an EFI partition type...

    DISKPART> Detail Part

    Partition 1

    Type : c12a7328-f81f-11d2-ba4b-00a0c93ec93b <<<EFI

    Hidden : Yes

    Required: No

    Attrib : 0X8000000000000000

    Offset in Bytes: 32768

    Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info


    * Volume 2 S ESP FAT32 Partition 99 MB Healthy System

    What type is shown for you? If it's a lot smaller, yours is a Legacy installation. Then, I think the type ID should be 07. Also, the partition needs to set Active. Does it say "Active" anywhere in your result?

    (b) My DIR shows an EFI folder...

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>DIR S:\ /a

    Volume in drive S is ESP

    Volume Serial Number is FAD1-673D

    Directory of s:\

    05/09/2017 12:25 AM <DIR> EFI

    09/29/2017 08:41 AM 1 BOOTNXT

    What folder is on yours?

    (4) That error message (by mentioning "winload.exe") suggests your installation is Legacy. It would say "winload.efi" if UEFI. Let's try to verify it with...

    BCDEdit /Enum {Bootmgr}

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>BCDEdit /Enum {Bootmgr}

    Windows Boot Manager


    identifier        {bootmgr}

    device            partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1     <<<What is your Device value? It will indicate

                                                                                                 whether there is a system partition at all.

                                                                                                   Sometimes there isnone, then C: doubles
    

                                                                                              as the System partition.

    path               \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi <<<Does yours say ...efi here or is it ...exe?

    description     Windows Boot Manager

    locale             en-US                                                    

    inherit             {globalsettings}

    default            {current}

    resumeobject          {f8d976f9-df94-11ea-b1d0-74e6e2074932}

    displayorder            {current}

    toolsdisplayorder    {memdiag}

    timeout                   30

    Did you run that command earlier to see the locale? Did it work? If it worked earlier but not now, it suggests the type code of EFI/System Reserved was good before but bad now. Or, maybe, that it just needs to be set Active. We'll have to fix it.

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