Is live.co.uk using POP on a mail host out of order or discontinued.

1 Thank you so much. That is a really clear explanation. Now I understand.

2 The explanation in the search page doesn't really accord with what I see displayed. For example when I look at gmail activity it shows Browser followed by the 31 character IP; IMAP followed by the short 4 block numeric; POP followed by the same 31 character IP that appears against browser. (When I look at Wireless Network Connection Status Details it shows a different IPv4 short 4 block numeric. This I can understand being different as it probably relates to the hub. But it also shows the same 31 character IP as in gmail activity against the IPv6)

However I suppose it doesn't really matter if I can't understand !

3 That article about Update messing up Windows Live Essentials had already been noted for me by the other Poster on this thread. If anything like that happens to me it would undoubtedly frighten me into serious stress illness. It makes me feel even more uncertain about what to do.

Thank you for your explanation of why only one email account affected. I assumed one's IP address* was common to all internet connections/actvities/accounts on the one device (computer) - or more accurately one hub/network - for a period until a new one got assigned - and in fact that is how it reads to me in the search page you gave: so I still don't really see why only one account was affected and all others on the same device (computer) using the same programme (WLM) were unaffected. [1] I hope when the ISP assigns me a new IP I don't lose access to some accounts again and have to clear & register the dns again. *I do see though that I have a long IP consisting of blocks of numbers & letters making a combination of 31 in total, another consisting of 4 blocks of numbers usually starting 86 or 81, and various IPv4 and IPv6 numbers. It's very confusing to a non-techie Senior Citizen !

[2] What is the difference between the 31 character IP and the 4 block numeric IP ? If I look up activity on my gmail account in webmail I see both types listed. If I call up the search page you quoted on both laptops I see the same two sets of IP addresses I see in gmail activity but sometimes it shows one (the 31 character) and sometimes the other (the 4 blocks)

As far as the other matter is concerned, what I had said was that I use my old Windows 7 laptop for everyday use because I rely heavily on WLM 2012 as I keep a vast number of emails locally on this (hence my use of POP3) and delete all from all other locales (webmail). I said I don't use Windows 10 because you can't have WLM 2012 (or Windows Live Essentials) on a new Windows 10 laptop. Another poster says you can and gave me the link to archive from which he says I can download WLM 2012 onto a new Windows 10 laptop. (The wlsetup exe is already stored in downloads on my Window 7 laptop from the time when it was originally installed). [3] What I hope to do if I can be brave enough (or pay someone else to do) is download & install WLM 2012 to my other, newer, Windows 10 laptop which I rarely use so I can then apply the same local storage of emails on the new laptop. I love WLM and was completely put off Windows 10 by being told it wasn't available there.

1. *Your* IP address isn't involved in the DNS Cache problem. The DNS cache is storing IP addresses of sites you go to. Gmail, Yahoo Mail and outlook.live.com all have different IP addresses. *Your* IP address doesn't matter.
2. Longer and shorter IP addresses.

IPv6 vs IPv4. https://www.google.com/search?q=difference+between+ipv6+and+ipv4 3. Go ahead and try to install WLM 2012 on Windows 10 yourself. If WLM doesn't work, you may have to do the registry edits posted by IllurionGray in this thread

3/6/2021 Windows 10 Microsoft Update messed up 2012 Windows Live Essentials (LIVE MAIL) unable to send, unable to read what is received. [Solution]

Just follow the step by step instructions.

Don

Thank you for your explanation of why only one email account affected. I assumed one's IP address* was common to all internet connections/actvities/accounts on the one device (computer) - or more accurately one hub/network - for a period until a new one got assigned - and in fact that is how it reads to me in the search page you gave: so I still don't really see why only one account was affected and all others on the same device (computer) using the same programme (WLM) were unaffected. I hope when the ISP assigns me a new IP I don't lose access to some accounts again and have to clear & register the dns again. *I do see though that I have a long IP consisting of blocks of numbers & letters making a combination of 31 in total, another consisting of 4 blocks of numbers usually starting 86 or 81, and various IPv4 and IPv6 numbers. It's very confusing to a non-techie Senior Citizen !

What is the difference between the 31 character IP and the 4 block numeric IP ? If I look up activity on my gmail account in webmail I see both types listed. If I call up the search page you quoted on both laptops I see the same two sets of IP addresses I see in gmail activity but sometimes it shows one (the 31 character) and sometimes the other (the 4 blocks)

As far as the other matter is concerned, what I had said was that I use my old Windows 7 laptop for everyday use because I rely heavily on WLM 2012 as I keep a vast number of emails locally on this (hence my use of POP3) and delete all from all other locales (webmail). I said I don't use Windows 10 because you can't have WLM 2012 (or Windows Live Essentials) on a new Windows 10 laptop. Another poster says you can and gave me the link to archive from which he says I can download WLM 2012 onto a new Windows 10 laptop. (The wlsetup exe is already stored in downloads on my Window 7 laptop from the time when it was originally installed). What I hope to do if I can be brave enough (or pay someone else to do) is download & install WLM 2012 to my other, newer, Windows 10 laptop which I rarely use so I can then apply the same local storage of emails on the new laptop. I love WLM and was completely put off Windows 10 by being told it wasn't available there.

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Local email accounts and Windows live still work in Windows 10 & 11.

This computer never came with 7, it came with 10.

https://archive.org/details/wlsetup-all_201802

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This is a useful piece of information but I don't understand how to download it. I have always been told (even by IT specialists) ever since Windows 10 was introduced, that Windows Live Essentials was not available on Windows 10. (The only part of Essentials I actually want or need is Windows Live Mail). The link you gave provides information (of a sort) but not a download option - or at least not one that I can understand! It shows a download file "Torrent" and another "Windows Executable". You obviously succeeded and I see you reviewed it. I take it that it is a safe download. Please could you give me further information. Your help is appreciated. Many thanks.

Addressing several questions/points.

Download and saving wlsetup.exe is a good idea. That file at archive.org may not be available forever and you may have to reinstall Windows Live Mail someday. You should not run that file until you do need to reinstall WLM.

The DNS problem only affected one email account/service because the email services have different IP Addresses.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=What+is+an+IP+address 

The IP address stored in the DNS Cache for live.co.uk was incorrect and clearing the cache caused a DNS search that found the correct address.

Don

Thank you. So I should be able to go to the page on link you quoted and simply download Windows Executable. (Do I need to download Torrent also?) I don't think I'm brave enough to do this myself so may have to pay someone to do it. Do you know whether, in style, appearance & method of setting up accounts and import/export, WLM looks and behaves in exactly the same way as on Windows 7? I appreciate your kind help.