Windows 11 Related Discussion [NOT OFFICIAL]

And average Joe, which populates about 95% of this planet, knows how to turn on TPM, Secure boot, encrypt drive?

Stop thinking that everyone knows how to use computers on a deep level. Duning-Kruger effect by MS?

Improving security by 60% does nothing. Not even 100%. Because 100% is for the time being. It will take time for hackers to implement new viruses, which will bypass these things. It is inevitable. Next will be W12, where you cannot use CPUs below 11th gen because there are vulnerabilities? They will still exist no matter what is done.

People still click anywhere, when they are online (clickbait). Even downloading files from their mail and "activating" them.

This is how you get your system damaged. Human error. And even Windows have human errors behind. Next update can have vulnerabilities. Next update will cancel them. Next update.......again with them.

Windows 10 isn't fixed properly for many reasons (one is error while updating - can't finish updating/configuring, restoring....) and MS wants to push W11? Yeah really?

And yes, this is marketing. When you force users to buy something that is not needed for most users or do not know how to use it.

And GUI changes? DX12? We're not running videogames on GUI.

Hi there,

This is not marketing, first, all of these securities together in Windows 11 which requires TPM, Secure boot, etc. reduce malware by 60%, but why old processors don't support it as for example Intel's 6th Gen processors faces around 30% lower performance when on Windows 11, as all security features are enabled and it wasn't designed for that, but 8th Gen and up were designed according to that, hence they don't face these performance issues, and 7th Gen is under testing, as well as AMD 1st Gen processors.
And as for DirectX12, I am not sure but I think it is most likely as Windows 11 has tremendous GUI changes, which low-end Graphics cards cannot handle.

The main goal for Windows 11 is Security, and they are doing this for people who can get advantages, so if you cannot get them then it's nobody's fault.

This is a request please always do some research before giving any points/suggestion or complaining, for anything

THANKS!! AND STAY SAFE!!

I agree ! I have an AMD Threadripper, 16 core 32 thread 1950x. It's watercooled. System has 128Gb of Ram, 6Tb of hard drives. Supports UEFI and fTPM. It's running Windows 11 but since it's a 1st generation Threadripper, MS won't support it as of now, and I'll probably switch it back over to Windows 10 when the time comes....Such a shame...

It can support even from 1st gen of Intel CPUs, and many other CPUs from other brand.

But........there is that "but".

What they do is called marketing. For MS, they are trying to sell you, collab with other companies, TPM chips and new gen CPUs/mobos, from last 3-4 years. And not just that, but GPUs that only have DX12 support.

They actually told that by using "requirements". This is not about security or whatever, this is about selling.

Your hardware breaks (TPM) and everything that is encrypted is bye-bye. And we all know that hardware can break. And there is that "always backup your keys if hardware breaks". So what's the point of backing up, if that backup can be read by "hackers".

So, once again TPM is bull. So is the requirements for CPUs and DX12

And this kind of selling practice is illegal and punished by law in almost every country in the world. And I hope that MS is reading this, because.....THE LAW!

Oh, did MS told you that due mass production of everything, there is a certain percentage that there will be products that are prone to fail? No? Well, that is mass production.

Why? Because I'm a seller myself. At least I'm not bull****ing customers and I always tell them what is worst, good and best. But I also tell them what downside can be, including mass production.

And furthemore, they even do not know how to fix or improve Windows 10 and they are shooting for Windows 11. Just a makeover of W10. MS can change Core, UI, UX, much everything in W10, just by updating. They don't want it. Because....MARKETING. and bull PR statements.

I think you may have the wrong information, I am using Windows 11 22000.51 via Windows Insider Inside my i3 7100, you can install Windows 11 on 7th Gen processors officially.

Not "officially," but rather, only if you are in the Windows Insider Development tier.

The "official" list of approved processors has not budged yet:

Windows Processor Requirements Windows 11 Supported Intel Processors | Microsoft Docs

Still 8th gen minimum, for Intel Core processors, and equivalent for other Intel processors and AMD. If public release were to be today, the general public would likely be unable to install Win11, on older processors. Unless Microsoft changes its mind, which has yet to happen.

My new theory is, maybe this is nothing but a stupid PR stunt, designed only to get people talking about Win11? Some inane marketing ploy, dreamed up by some Microsoft marketing person? I'd sorely love to know what the actual software engineers at Microsoft think about this policy. I wouldn't be a bit surprised, if they were deeply embarrassed.

(Also working for a rather large company, I can say without hesitation, the decisions made the the senior execs can, at times, be truly embarrassing.)