Windows 11 Related Discussion [NOT OFFICIAL]

Having exactly the same issue on mine. My main build is running an i7-7700K with both the secure boot, UEFI and firmware TPM 2.0 turned on. I'm also running a test machine with the developers version of win11 and it is running with an i3-6100 that also has the TPM 2.0, UEFI, and secure boot turned on as well and it's running fine apart from the sleep and wake GSOD issues. I did read somewhere that the reason Win11 doesn't work (and please take this with a pinch of salt) is that the 7th gen and below series CPU's have issues using VBS and I think android uses VBS for its apps. There are currently some 7th gen CPU's supported but they are currently the LGA2066 version of 7th gen CPU's, specifically the i7-7740X or similar and there is a full list on the CPU compatibility list to check. Ryzen 1 series have a couple of security flaws which prevent it from being a candidate for the upgrade and I think AMD and MS are currently in talks about that as well. It might change, it might not I don't know so I would either start saving for at least an 8th gen i3 or Ryzen equivalent if you're on a budget or hold off on win11 as you'll have loads of time before things start going up the creek.

I am 100% Sure that Intel 6th & 7th Gen processors & AMD Ryzen 1000 have no problem Running Windows 11 smoothly, and according to the given requirements by Microsoft: -

What I want is whichever processor has a minimum of 1Ghz faster, 2 or more cores being a 64-bit processor, should be supported by Windows 11.

Example: - I have an i3-7100, it is of 3.9Ghz, 2 core 4 threads, and is a 64-bit processor, it is easily compatible with Windows 11 according to the above-given data by Microsoft, but according to Microsoft Windows 11 processor support list, i3-7100 isn't supported, now I don't know why it is not supported but according to the above-given requirements by Microsoft, my processor should be easily compatible with Windows 11 but they haven't added it in their support list.

*All of this data is as of 26 June 2021

My laptop has a slightly lower 7100U processor but still is compatible for an Windows 11 upgrade as it meets ever other requirements as you can see it in the image attached along and I think Windows 11 would work smoothly. But I don't see why i3 7 gen is still not listed as a compatible processor. Microsoft should really look into it.

My system is running great on the latest build of Win 11, even though it states my PC does not meet the minimum hardware requirements:

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz 2.80 GHz

Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)

Device ID DC1B7DB1-4639-41B3-9D24-31311F6B31DD

System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Pen and touch Touch support with 10 touch points

Will Microsoft revise the minimum system requirements once the Beta builds go into a final release?

That's a good question. So far, Microsoft has only said that 7th generation Intel Core processors are being evaluated by the Windows Insiders. Perhaps, we don't know yet, they will be among the anointed, for public release of Win11.

Thing is, the 7th gen Intel Core are not that different from several previous generations. They were marginal improvements. Clock rates slightly higher, base and turbo, that sort of thing. And, 7th Intel Core CPUs gen won't run Windows 7, apparently, while 6th gen could, even though they normally came with WIn10 pre-installed. This mattered most to enterprises, when their new PCs still had to run Win7, like the rest of the enterprise.

In fact, those 7th gen Intel Core processors were still vulnerable to Spectre/Meltdown, needing the BIOS update to mitigate the threat. Just like 8th gen were, and 6th and prior generations. And of course, also vulnerable to ZombieLoad, as even Intel Core 9th gen processors are.

Complete List Of CPUs Vulnerable To Meltdown / Spectre Rev. 8.0 | Intel Desktop CPUs Affected By Meltdown + Spectre of 9 | Tech ARP

Zombieload Intel Vulnerability: Explained (****)

As far as performance is concerned, there was a more pronounced difference with 8th gen, when the number of cores and threads increased, from all previous versions.

The more you read about this stuff, the more absurd this motherhood and apple pie "explanations" we get from Microsoft sound, for their idea that so many PCs must be sent to the scrap heap. Let's hope they come to their senses.

Man this is soooo stupid... I have 2 fairly modern Notebooks:

A HP Envy X360 with an Ryzen 5 2500u, touchscreen and a pen and it would benefit sooo much from win 11 but i can't install Windows 11 because you guys in the white tower think, everbody should run out and buy new Notebooks. This has nothing to do with security, don't fool the users. My HP supports TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot and is in UEFI Mode. These are features wich are understandable from a security standpoint. Where is the logic? A wimpy Athlon 300u gets Win11 but a Ryzen 7 2700u doesn't??. But hardlocking specific CPU squeues out because you feel like it? common!!

My other Notebook is a Clevo with an i7 7700HQ, 16GB DDR4 and a GTX 1060 and it's also supporting TPM and Secure Boot. It's still a pretty powerfull machine but it also can't get the update because the CPU is older than 4 years.

That my Desktop PC isn't getting a Win11 is something i can understand because the i7 6700k doesn't support TPM2.0 out of the box. But i think if I would add a TPM 2.0 card it should be supported.

The developers working on windows: Are you planning to give Apple more marketshare? Because if you do so, this is the way to go. This is exactly what is annoying the hell out of windows users, and making them consider Apple as an alternative, because ive you buy a Mac, you can be sure that you'll get Updates for your device for a long time. When going windows it'**** or miss now. I think this is one of the must stupid decision you could have made regarding your image. Next time, before you make such decisions, take a look at the Steam hardware survey to get an idea, how many systems wich are in service right now would be affected by the updated. Fun fact: right now you will not reach even only 1% of all Systems in use until this point in time.

Btw: developers like it to optimize for a plattform with a large installbase. Good luck with windows 11

Improving security by 60% does nothing. Not even 100%. Because 100% is for the time being. It will take time for hackers to implement new viruses, which will bypass these things. It is inevitable. Next will be W12, where you cannot use CPUs below 11th gen because there are vulnerabilities? They will still exist no matter what is done. ...

And yes, this is marketing. When you force users to buy something that is not needed for most users or do not know how to use it.

Yes, this is exactly on point. We shouldn't just buy what the Microsoft apologists are selling. If the system is being set up to obsolete the vast majority of PC hardware every couple or three years, there's no way we should take that passively, like good lemmings.

Plus, all this talk about how nth gen processors are unacceptably slowed down is also nothing more than parroting what the Microsoft salesmen say. Nothing like actually verifying the claims. Plus, it also depends on what people do with their PCs. Performance is almost always a function of what specific apps we use, not the same across the board.

As I said, with all the hardware security features that Win11 requires switched on, my 6th gen Intel Core i7 works just fine and dandy. And many other people have said the same thing, with 6th gen or even older CPUs. No need to parrot Microsoft's sales pitches, for heaven's sake. Try it out!