11/23/20 – Strange USB Boot problem that I’m thinking is Windows oriented

Anonymous
2020-11-23T22:22:39+00:00

Something I’ve always done over the years is run weekly 100% mirror image bootable backup clones of the C-drive in my ThinkPad laptops…using spare USB cable connected SSD hard drives.  [ connect the drive, run ‘Acronis True Image’ cloning software that I use, done ]

From time to time I’d boot the laptop from a USB backup drive, always worked perfectly…but mostly I’d just make the weekly backups for peace of mind in case the C-drive should ever fail.

But discovered a pesky little problem as I’ve been setting up a new ThinkPad P52 to replace my older P51.  After I finished setting up the new P52 C-drive, I cloned it to a USB attached hard drive like I’ve done on the P51 a couple hundred times…and then just to be sure it worked, tried to boot the P52 back from the cloned USB attached drive.

Failed…blue screen error message: “Inaccessible Boot Device”.

TROUBLE SHOOTING SUMMARY SO FAR:

The P52 ThinkPad boots up normally / works perfectly from its internal C-drive.

All USB flash drives and/or USB cabled hard drives that I plug in all operate normally.

The P52 laptop sees them all, adds them to the list of other drives in the laptop (c, d, e, f, etc.).

I can read/ write to them business as usual, click open / look at content inside normally.

My cloning software works like always because I’ve taken cloned copies and physically installed them inside the laptop as the internal C-drive and the laptop comes right up normally / works perfectly, etc.  I simply cannot BOOT FROM a USB connected clone any longer.

I’ve spent hours over a few days Internet searching, trying this, trying that, no help.

I’ve tried different SSD hard drives, different cables, different USB ports, no help.

Ran a few check-disk kinds of scans and the SSD’s are rock solid as always.

Ensured all Lenovo ThinkPad updates are downloaded and installed.

Ensured all Windows updates are downloaded and installed.

Then started trying the approach of uninstalling Windows updates one at a time but it’s very time consuming and several of the "security related Win updates" wouldn’t let me uninstall them.

So I decided to go back and ensure everything sill worked OK on the original P51, and to my surprise it fails the same way.  Been quite a while since I actually did a USB Boot on the original P51 so I assume something must have changed during the past several months and I’m thinking the Win 10 Pro software is the common denominator.

Thought I’d check here with the Brain Trust and see if anyone might know of a specific Win 10 related finding / fix for this situation…thanks a lot in advance.

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  1. Anonymous
    2020-11-28T01:04:48+00:00

    Hi,

    Yes... I can do that, but one thing that makes a difference as to how it can be done depends upon whether your P51 and\or P52 have a Esata connection on the back of the machine..

    Take a look and let me know, then I can go from there..

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  2. Anonymous
    2020-11-28T00:48:50+00:00

    I definitely do want to be able to USB boot from an external cloned SSD.

    My apologies If I missed you mentioning what's needed to do that.

    Is what I'd need to get & do something you could easily share?

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  3. Anonymous
    2020-11-27T19:35:52+00:00

    Hi,

    If you want to boot from the external SSD I'm thinking your only option would be to do sometype of external SATA connection.. It works well for me..

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  4. Anonymous
    2020-11-27T17:35:27+00:00

    No...no enclosure, just plain naked Samsung 850 EVO SSD drives like you'd install inside a laptop and only a plain simple little USB / SSD connecting cable...no circuitry built into it, etc.

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  5. Anonymous
    2020-11-27T16:53:08+00:00

    Hi,

    That forum post is similar to what I was thinking except that it appears to be intentional and not an error finding the file..

    I don't know why you didn't see it before except that it happened so fast it was not noticed..

    Your bios settings may have something to do with how fast it reverts to the internal drive as well..

    Is this external SSD a regular internal SSD in a enclosure, o is it one of Samsung's External USB SSD's ?

    I was thinking it was a converted internal SSD.. Regardless, there is a USB chip in between the SSD and the computer..

    This is one of the gadgets I use to convert my internal SSD's to USB.. You cn see a circuit board with a couple of small chips and capacitors on it.. It does more than just change the type of plug...

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