Why am I being asked for a Passkey? How do I turn off passkeys?

Anonymous
2024-07-22T21:51:35+00:00

I was opted into this without my knowledge, or without understanding how it works.

I have a solid understanding of Windows, and the security around it. But I do not understand why I suddenly am being forced to use, and constantly asked about passkeys, when I have not opted into them or set them up.

If I don't understand why I am being forced to use these, or why they are required, none of the less savvy users will. This will likely result in Microsoft spending more on tech support due to people being locked out of their devices.

Scenario: I have deleted the passkeys from my settings, and now my Edge logins have a discrepancy, because they are demanding passkeys that no longer exist.

For some reason, Windows is not allowing me to delete my Microsoft Passkey, because now that is required to sign in to my computer. I already have a PIN, a password, a fingerprint, and my face to sign in to my computer.

Is the only option logging out of my Microsoft Account and making it a local account to opt out of passkeys?

Passkeys need to be explained better if they are going to be a requirement, it needs to be a more gentle introduction.

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Rob Koch 26,160 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
2024-07-23T03:59:03+00:00

You've been using a passkey to login to Windows since you enabled Windows Hello to perform Face, Fingerprint or PIN login methods, since they' re an integral part of that system. They simply weren't as visible in the past, since the Passkey Management and using them for 3rd-party apps or websites weren't yet supported.

As usual, the problem is there are many documents available covering these and some confusing differences between the Azure Business-based systems using something called Entra for authentication and the consumer version of these related to your Microsoft Personal account. I'll include documents from both here in case you are more technically interested but tell you which I'm providing.

The first is an overview for consumer accounts and should help you understand how crucial they are to Microsoft's future authentication systems intended to remove the need for passwords, so trying to escae them is utterly pointless.

New passkey support for Microsoft consumer accounts | Microsoft Security Blog

This next one has more technical detail and in the first sections describes in general how they work, while a later section is specific to the Microsoft implementation and shows how these functions relate to Windows Hello, the Edge browser and other similar portions of Windows. I wouldn't typically provide this to the average consumer, but it really makes their operation on Windows clear for those wanting to understand them more deeply.

WebAuthn APIs - Windows Security | Microsoft Learn

I think I'll stop there for the moment to make sure you want more iformation, since upon quick review, these two documents cover the basics, while there are many others that provide the How-to explanations for individual portions of passkey operation.

Rob

< EDIT > BTW, here's a FAQ document with some common questions about passkeys, the last of which is titled; How can I provide feedback about my experience with passkeys?

Passkeys frequently asked questions (FAQ) - Microsoft Support

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quietman7 MVP Alumni 19,830 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
2025-06-22T21:08:03+00:00

I appreciate your response. If a password and the multi-authentication code is not sufficient, what does a 'passkey' do?

Why doesn't Microsoft provide some easy-to-understand explanation of what a 'passkey' is and why it is different for every site?

I provided that information in a previous reply (page 11) but here are those and some more links by Microsoft with explanations.

Passkeys Authentication Across Platforms - How Passkeys Registration and Authentication Work Across Devices and Platforms

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To combat such risks, phishing-resistant Passwordless authentication methods, including enhanced support for Microsoft Authenticator, have become critical.

Just for the record...Microsoft has long been a proponent of passwordless authentication for years so this is nothing new. Other industries have been moving in that direction too. .

In a nutshell...Passkeys are stored as secrets locally on a device and use a device's unlock mechanism such as Windows Hello biometrics (fingerprint or facial recognition) or PIN sign-In options to authenticate them before signing in. Passkeys can be used without the need for other sign-in challenges, making the authentication process faster and more convenient. A passkey is invisible, virtual and employ public-key cryptography (keypair concept: a private key and a public key). The passkey is purposely hidden from access inside the TPM (Trusted Platform Module).
 
TPM chip is an embedded crypto-processor in laptops and is designed to provide hardware-based, security-related functions (carry out cryptographic operations. The TPM is isolated from the main processor and functions as a vault (a lockbox for keys) so in the event of malware attack or breach, sensitive user data remains secure.

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  1. Anonymous
    2024-12-18T16:34:15+00:00

    You do not have to use it. It's your computer, not theirs. Unfortunately one of the few ways I've found to opt out of their absolutely broken passkey implementation, is to sign out of your Microsoft account, and sign in as a local account on your computer.
    This has the added benefit of less privacy being violated by the dishonest employees that make up the entirety of the staff at Microsoft.

    Ain't this the truth.

    I'm an IT professional myself and I have very competent password management in the form of KeePass (XC and Strongbox) and my own cloud storage that I sync it with and a YubiKey.

    I have done it this way specifically to keep it compatible with all my computers, which can run any of the three major operating systems, and to keep it out of the hands of major tech companies who, despite their technical prowess, have turned their systems into "nagware" and even malware.

    The mac implementation just asks if I want to put it in Strongbox because I registered Strongbox as my password manager and the operating system respects that.

    But as usual Windows is a nagware spaghetticode monstrosity. It doesn't care that I have my own solution to any of this - it's going to pop up and it's going to nag me every single time until I relent (which I won't, I just actively avoid Windows as much as possible now).

    Leaving aside the case for passkeys, which is seriously suspect to anyone with even a modicum of competence and only has any value for the people who keep using the password "password1234" on all their accounts (which is not an insignificant amount of people I admit), this nagging isn't built in a way so it nags me to use passkeys - it's built in a way that nags me to use Microsoft's particular implementation of passkeys.

    This will not happen. If I end up in a situation where it is either WIndows with passkeys or no Windows, I am easily reaching the point now where all it takes is a straw to break the camel's back.

    I am sick of nagware, and Windows is infested with it, and it never seems to end. It's like the whole operating system consists of Clippy at this point.

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  2. Anonymous
    2024-11-25T22:32:52+00:00

    "inconsistent visual interfaces these various companies are using with passkeys are what's truly causing these problems."

    This is only a small part of it. Users being forced into it without their knowledge, consent, or even a tiny explanation of what these are or how they work is why there are problems here. Every single one of these companies needs to prompt the user, AFTER a successful login, not before, the prompt needs to offer an explanation of what a passkey is, how it works, why it's better than a password, and then give the user a gentle way to turn them on.

    Unfortunately this is actually the way it's working: User attempts to login, Windows/Google/Amazon/Browser immediately demands a passkey that does not exist, without the user having set one up at all, or even being aware of it.

    Hilariously, if you're on Windows 10, you have no way to access, view, manage, or delete those keys. It's one thing for iOS, Android, or Windows 11 to do this, since these users all have access to a passkey GUI that does not exist in Windows 10.

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  3. Anonymous
    2024-10-25T00:23:24+00:00

    I have the same problem. Can't turn this "asking for passkey stuff" off. MS in its infinite wisdom apparently says you have to use it.

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