I give you great credit, for trying to match my questions; with enough of your own, to help me out. Thank you! Okay, there are two paradigms here kinda, intersecting just a little bit, confusing some perhaps. My digital link to download windows10, comes from my "Upgrade" DURING THE UPGRADE GRACE PERIOD; from Windows 8, years ago. Which was upgraded fro Win7; my original licensed recovery discs....and the Windows product key on my machine. So, I don't have something I got on line; for the purpose of trying to go through proper channels, and upgrade through Microsoft. I am digital linked, through the upgrade on my machine now, done some years ago. I am linked solely to Windows10 as a licensed user; via the upgrade grace period; with the current software running my machine now. This semi flaky hard drive, is my only copy of Win10 home; because it is an upgrade; however, it does show as a digital linked valid upgrade, to the Microsoft computers, I posted back there. Anything referencing Images, or ISO's; that I have gotten, or tried to load on to a drive, are alternative to Microsoft directly. In other words; I could not get the "media creation tool" to run any way I tried; after downloading it. So I ventured into anything else I might try, or was suggested. Only a couple; that went all the way to getting an ISO on the drive. One was a way to trick the servers, into a download it seemed, and the first image ISO, seemed like a direct download. Neither of them worked, and Fido could not make them executable. Today, I am looking into Fido someone suggested. This second paradigm is just desperation; and does not likely involve much verification of my license or digital link; or a safe version of Windows ISO to download. Everything I have tried through Microsoft, has not gotten a single sniff of downloading an ISO, anywhere; because I am cut off by the "media creation tool's" failure.
Next question; what error message do I get, when I download the media creation tool. On previous attempts; when I was trying to download it with the new drive with Win7 recovery on it; I got incompatibility message, posted back there some place; quite generic, and no doubt do to the version of windows. So, I switched drives, back to the old one with WIN10, many many times, many downloads; and on the Windows ten drive I am trying to replace here, and has the legit upgrade to WIN10; I get nadda. I right click, choose administrator, permission to make changes box... then yes; it brings up a white box, like a small banner starting the software, with a blue windows logo in it; and that is it. Banner exits, nothing! There for about seconds, and aborts. No messages at all. Running the troubleshooter when I right click the tool icon; gives me a rather generic compatibility message below.
Your inquiry question three, about when I download the ISO; you say, when you run the tool, you have three options. No, I don't get anything, not with the Windows Media creation tool. I have never seen those options once, or gotten a single ISO download, with the official media download tool. Any mention or attempts with an ISO, are from the out of the box paradigm here; trying to get something to work, without the darn official tool from Microsoft. I want o use that tool, should work, but won't. If the tool did work, and I got the ISO direct from Microsoft servers; I would likely not have any issues booting it from my USB, to the new drive. The tool, just won't run anywhere; on either drive, from either drive, to either drive, with either operating system; in safe mode, out of safe mode....tried for days, to get that tool to simply "run" open, display a screen, for those options you mention. I have never seen those options. The Note: about copying the tool. to my hard drive, then moving it to my USB. While I did try even that; it became quite apparent, as as I suspected; moving an ISO around, like a normal file, is not going to fly. I got a warning, about leaving behind important properties I think it was; and stopped it there. Yeah, not moving ISO files around like J-pegs.
Okay inquirey4, the bootleg attempt. In a more desperate attempt, to go around the tool that won't work from Microsoft; I found on a forum thread, or someone lead me to it; that offered a way, to trick the microsoft servers to think I was downloading from an apple or android, or other operating system. Sounded a bit fishy to me; because why would Microsoft require a tool for me to download, but not for someone on their competitions operating systems or machines. None the less, I tried it step by step, to see if I cold get an image to download; and the second try, once I reformated my USB to take the full ISO image; it seemed like I got an ISO to download, about the right time for an operating system to download. However, it would not boot anything; when I swapped bios to the USB on my computer, and tried use the ISO to install from the USB. So, I tried to convert using Rufus, maybe not even the right tactic; but did not work either; got a warning about and insecure copy, and not to use it, and it could not assign a drive letter, after that. I guess to convert it. None of this mess worked in the end; but may have gotten some kind of ISO image on the USB, weather RUFUS, liked it or not. I tried conversion, because the funky download o the ISO, did not start installing the operating system, when booted. I thought maybe conversion. The reason I call it bootleg, is because Rufus warned about an insecure copy, and posted a warning about using that ISO, and it did not work anyway. Maybe it was a work around, that worked for a while; and was later intercepted by Microsoft, I don't know. It did at least, install something on to the drive; which is farther than I got with the Windows tool.
I think I posted the "Details" best I know, above here; from the troubleshooter. Not much details. More like a detail. Yes, I did mean to say "newer" video card, some kinda of galaxy with a fan on it; okay replacement, when I put it in, not super gamer or anything, works fine. I deal with some disability issue here; and when I spell the wrong word correct, I tend to miss it. Sorry, I know it makes it hard to follow; when the person asking for assistance, can't communicate well, juxtaposes things. This is extremely tedious for me, you have no idea likely.
You have run the media install tool, on a WIN7 machine, of inferior specifications? Now that is useful information. It tells me, even if my WIN10 drive I am on here with, is corrupted; that I should be able to run that media creation tool; on the other newer drive, with the fresh install of WIN7SP1....and dowload the ISO, top my USB FLASH DRIVE? That should be a total non corrupted operating system; unless by same remote chance, the Service pack was infected, or the updates to the updater. I installed the SP1 manual way, and then 4 updates to the Windows updater; to get the recovery install of 7, to function well. It is now fully updated, with no updates, all took. However, I get similar compatibility error, on that drive environment. I think on the 7 drive, one error message comes up when I try to run the tool, and another slightly different, when I run troubleshooter. Both quite generic, and the troubleshooter one, I think exactly the same. Hard to believe both operating systems are are corrupted, can't even open that tool; yet works for most other stuff?
Update errors, posting. Here is a screenshot, of the only failed update; seems like maybe a optional one, tried 6 times.
Also here is the page, when I hit on the failed update below. Oddly, I see a reference at very bottom, for a KB5058481 update; that did install. Unless it is two parts or something? I don't read these that much, so will let someone who does, tell me if it is important. Only this one update seems stuck. I hope this is what you are looking for? If not I will try again.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/may-28-2025-kb5058481-os-build-19045-5917-preview-7698d6e7-dd65-494d-b523-aa4c6aa913a2
Yes, at least for now, my desired outcome of this post; is to get my current WIN10 operating system on the new drive; off this quite old one(at least ten years old, maybe closer to 15). I don't care about using Windows seven on the new drive, it was just part of the attempted recovery process; that can go away as well when this drive retires.
Next comment by you: Yes. But, the layout of the file(s) written to the memory-stick needs to be in a special format, to make it a "bootable" device. Question? Does the "Win media install tool" do that upon successful install of the ISO to the drive; direct the OS to install itself? Or does the tool, only download an ISO; then that ISO needs burned to DVD, or converted in some way, to install to a drive. My understanding, is that the tool, can do either; make a bootable USB by itself, or download the ISO, to burn a DVD. Likely selectable, if I could ever get the tool to run. More reason I need the tool to work.
Yes on issues with file transfers, and loading to other media. During the huge back up, I had several windows open; moving things around; onto USB's, and passport drives. A pretty wreckless adventure; with a good number of outright crashes, on this drive I am on. More windows open, worse it was. One time I thought I was never coming back up; but a couple boots later an automatic disc repair started finally; and I went from a black screen and stationary cursor, no action on the computer lights, for five ten minutes; to working much better. Always seemed to work better, after one of those disc repairs. Some were short, some were longer, near an hour. During the backup time, the computer was crashing a lot; several disc repairs; maybe five or six total. Sometimes it crashed on start up, very shortly after booting; acted really bad for a short time; and why I decided time to back-up while I can. A couple times, it crashed right after the Operating system loaded. I started it up, and it crashed, before I came back into the room. SOMETHING ELSE, when this started; it has been extremely slow to boot up and load the operating system; which made the crashes really fun. I mean like ten fifteen minutes to finally boot....and a long lag, till the menu bar icons load, and more time for the Virus protection to load. Still very slow to complete entire boot process. That is new, a bit before the crashes started.
I got a few error messages, I think I wrote one down 0x80072F8F-0x20000. At least one other error was common, I may not have written down. This may tell you something; since the crashes, all seemed to be during a lot of open windows, and various drives plugged in. Much of this could well have been; I had three passports at once, and a USB or two, all going at once on rare occasion; trying to organize and save all my files. I do have a back drive; but that is only 1TB, and not sure that ever worked exactly right. I have since better figured that drive. Most stuff is on there; but all needed sorted. There was definitely a tendency to crash, and slow; with more windows open, and more drives hooked up. It first started trying to repair a USB drive, disc repair tried to do that a few times. When I indicated my computer was fine, I did not mean to infer; that is is all good working great, but that it was working for downloads, and say having many tabs open". I have gone for periods, where I am on with bird sites, and some video running, and ten tabs to shop for a new drive, and to look up specs, etc. Ten fifteen hours, digesting and downloading information, sidetracked to Facebook that open.......near twenty four hours no crash. Lately, I have not had many crashes, in fact zero today; been on a good ten hours I guess. It was also crashing a lot, annoyingly; while I was trying to open navigate my Outlook account; and is very slow to open the internet sights and get them going. Even Firefox slow to load; once it gets up and running usually good. Outlook, was the worst; often crashing to the blue screen of death. The browsers are still slow to load, seems to take forever, to get on a site on start up; but rolls fine once I am up a while. With all the disc checks, and automatic disc repairs on this drive; I was sure it was a hard drive, and may well be. Also, the performance got better after the disc check.
Oh, one more big notice yesterday; when I had disc management open; looking at my partitions. Oddly, I see a 4th partition, on my failing drive here. The oddball, is a small partition marked recovery about 512 MB I think. I did not put it there, so where did it come from; a system repair, something else? Let me find that, and screenshot it now. I am new to the disc management area here; but managed it enough yesterday, to partition the other new 4Terabyte drive; that was not a bootable drive option with legacy bios; but was an option for a GPT secondary drive. However, this screenshot is from today now, showing my current drive as disc 1, and the other new bootable 2TB drive as disc0. I did not partition, or mess with any of these drives at all. The new top drive0, with win7 on it; looks as expected. Three partitions, set up by my win7 recovery discs; system, I guess the operating system G partition, H is the main mostly empty drive space; and M is factory recovery image, to do recovery; of all the factory installed everything? What stands out to me, is drive 1 I am on now; where did the 511MB healthy recovery partition come from? Is that something from a system repair, disk repair? I am not entirely sure, if that 386MB unallocated space, was there yesterday? Possible I was working in a partial screen half the time, as I read some instructions about partitioning the drive; so could have been off screen, and not expanded enough; when I was looking at that particular drive. My focus yesterday; was to get the 4T drive up and not a boat anchor; figure it out now; before I get the operating system in; rather than figure it out later, and risk ruining that precious install. In any case; disk one, is the WIN10 DRIVE, i am on now. Yesterday it was disc zero; because I am swapping drives around a lot; but that recovery partition is suspicious to me. There should only be 3 partitions here, much as the disk zero has. Partitioned by the same recovery discs years apart, as well. No, I did not mess anything up in here yesterday; I was very careful; not to erase my functional drives and operating systems. Worked on BIG 4T drive only. Maybe this will help, with behavior and troubleshooting of my current drive.
I am not sure how, this all going on with my current win10 drive, could affect the new WIN7 drive attempts, I also tried to run the installer on, in safe mode even ; if you have had success, with such set-up, running the image creation tool, in similar software environment and machine? Did you have SP1, installed, that is a variable, on the new WIN7 drive perhaps? One last thing; I have had a piece of software lodged, half installed, on my machine for a couple years. I mistook it for a helpful utility; and downloaded it. Then realized it was security of course, I don't need finish initiating it. It was a windows security app; that of course is hard to remove, because it is security; nothing worked on line I tried; and I got use to working around it. It basically set up a log in screen; so I had to log into my computer, each time I booted it. If, I had completely activated its final set-up. That software by Windows; would remind me about every ten days or boots, to finish activating it, and setting it up, to run on a password. I never did, and did not want it on my computer at all; it slowed the boot process, and once in a while would stop the boot, and demand a log in password; stuck on an interum screen till I did. I would reboot it, and not see it for a couple weeks. Another reason, I wanted to start from scratch. Also the reason, I started with a new drive, fresh install of the 7operating system; totally separate. It wasn't WIN10 on the new drive; but it was an non corrupted 7 install, from my own recovery discs; certainly to start, and likely is. That is why I started the process offer on the new drive. Over ten fifteen years; a computer has a lot of glitches, for a non tech person, who generally; leaves his alone. Anyway, this extra information might help you, certainly in ways I can't understand fully. That is okay; just need some help with a solution; and the communication is good on your end anyway. Digging deep for me. Thank you for the extra effort. There are many reasons, I am rebuilding anew; but if you can get the nemesis tool, to run on an inferior 7 machine; why can't I? Let alone running it, on the replacement drive. Well mostly because your much smarter at this than I am obviously; but, pretty simple one step on the fresh new drive, and OP install. Right click the downloaded tool icon, select run as administrator; permission the program to make changes when the box pops up as usual...and something should run, open, download, or something. On one of the set up drives, you would think. [