Trouble Making Image Backup with Acronia True Image 2016 -- apparent misread of space

Anonymous
2020-06-18T23:54:58+00:00

I have been trying for days now to make a backup image of my internal Windows 10 hard drive, fully updated to current Windows 10 level May 2020. I have been using Acronis True Image 2016, as I always do. I have been backing up to an external, USB2 connected hard drive with 160 GB of free space on it (a 320 GB hard drive), the same drive I normally backup to. This is a Gateway laptop, NE56R from 2012, which shipped with Windows 8.

I have been trying to backup all partitions, including the C, and recovery partitions (including the Push Button one, which is about 15 GB) and whatever others are there. In total, they are about 109 GB. So I ought to have plenty enough free space.

I have checked all partitions to back up with True Image. It runs the whole backup, takes a good five hours. At the end, it throws up amessage saying ther eis not enough space for the image.

I have never had this problem before. The machine is booted from the True Image disk, so that should rule out some issue wiht my Widows 10 OS. I am doing a full disk backup, and I am even using Maximum Compression, which is what I always use, so I should need something lessthatn 109 GB of free space. and Ihave 160 GB of free space on the external drive.

I have a backup of Win 10 I made in April, shortly before the new OS level cam out on the drive -- I always keep two, just because. I deleted the older of the two on there, so now have only the one. I certainly don't want to delete the one on there, and still have this problem but no backup at all. But Ihave more free space than shudbe needed.

The external drive has been used only for backups since I started using it brand new, and I make a backup once or twice a year -- and I have been using it no more than four years. So, the external drive has very little, hardly any actual use on it, it is not far from brand new.

I read something this morning about a real problem found in the new Win 10 update, something to do with Storage Space, that is some sort of function in the OS now. I don't know what that is, or what it does. But the story said if your drive is not showing as RAW, then it should be OK, not affected. I checked Disk Management, and none of my volumes nor the external drive are marked as RAW. So, that should mean that issue is not the case here.

I have done enough backups in the past four years using the Acronis True Image 2016 software. It has always worked fine, and actually with less free space (I had another item on the drive too, but have deleted it. I also have deleterd about 32 GB of stuff from my C drive in an attempt to make this backup fit, but to no avail -- that is, my last two backups were actually larger than this one, and they fit fine.)

So, why do I keep getting the message about not enough space? I should have way more than enough.

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  1. Anonymous
    2020-08-09T00:08:40+00:00

    OK, so there's a seamy side to Apple too. Good you have made its restrictive nature known to us. But I was safe to begin with, seeing as I'm content with Microsoft as is. Microsoft would rather we use the Microsoft Store for apps exclusively -- but it is in no way a requirement. We only get a gentle warning, then we may proceed with 3rd-party installations. Also, Windows Defender is all we need, not any 3rd-party antivirus app that can actually often interfere with updates. Thanks for the heads-up. It is true hardware can become unsupported in Windows too, but I doubt it will ever happen to HDDs. That's going too far!

    OK, we did well in this thread, got some good work done. Keep us informed of any further unfortunate happenstance. Good luck. You did well.

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  2. Anonymous
    2020-08-09T00:37:13+00:00

    Oh, the hard drives are on the way out, to a large extent. They will still have their uses. Solid state drives are plenty faster and should ber longer lasting. Not immediately, but xlowly and then jsut ahrd to find. Much of what will be sold now is solid state drives. That's why price of hard drives is so low, at least, its one reason why.

    I'm not sure about all the tech behind Apple's approach, but the idea is that Apple will be hardening its system, blocking anything unchecked from getting in. The idea is you don't need much of any anti-malware, it can't get through Apple's wall.

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  3. Anonymous
    2020-08-09T01:34:23+00:00

    (1) OK, thanks for the information. I won't mind switching to an SSD (seeing as they too have dropped in price), but my internal 1 TB Seagate HDD will have to die first. And I thank Microsoft kindly for giving it time to die its own death -- instead of the holocaust Apple has in mind. Or did I misread you?

    (2) I like Windows Defender's approach to warn of but allow 3rd-party apps. Only if it actually finds an intruder, will it not allow the app to exist. My latest full scan produced this...

    It seems PUa:Win32/CCleaner is not liked. Defender found it piggy-backing inside SPSetup130.exe & deleted it. That is Speccy, I believe, which I downloaded long ago but never installed. So, I plugged in my external HDD on which I keep a copy of my downloads, & again SPSetup.exe was deleted, this time without my even doing a scan. Clicking "learn more" gets here...

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/threats/malware-encyclopedia-description?name=PUA%3aWin32%2fCCleaner&threatid=277099

    PUA:Win32/CCleaner

    I think it isn't even that CCleaner is disliked. It's that CCleaner may come with disliked stuff bundled inside it. But this is a much better approach than banning anything/everything that does not come from the Microsoft Store.

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  4. Anonymous
    2020-08-09T02:42:55+00:00

    About your CCleander suspiciosn. you are correct. I was jsut sending info and an ariticle on the same topic to some firneds yesterday:

    The small company, Anomaly Six LLC, which has strong links to the US defense and intelligence communities, has embedded its application within any number of apps -- they say in more than 500 apps and tracking people all over the world -- you use on your phone. They then sell the info they collect, supposedly mostly location data, tracking you everywhere you go -- to the government, and also sell it to non-government private clients, for whatever their purposes. It is NOT simply for advertising purposes, which is what they always say. Neither their SDK nor what is being done with the info they collect is mentioned in disclosures for the app it is in.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-government-contractor-embedded-software-in-apps-to-track-phones-11596808801

    This info from the SDK is used by all kinds of places, not just advertising, such as police (why bother following the Constitution and get a warrant to track people when it is freely available like this on EVERYONE).

    The app developers allow this, they get money for letting the SDK in. Lots of third parties are adding their SDKs to your apps, collecting who knows what or for what purposes, no matter what the app developer itself is collecting for its purposes -- and there is no disclosure of it (much less should it be allowed, even if disclosed). What is unusual about this Anomaly Six operation is how closely linked it is to the government's defense and intelligence-spying agencies. They are former defense and intelligence workers who have now set up a company to collect all this information about people and selling it back to the government that would not be able to collect it directly without getting a warrant to justify it. And the government has decided that to get the info that way is legal.

    Is it any surprise that the US government will not put very serious privacy protections in place? We have not even gone to the much more stringent privacy protection of Europe, even though that, while significant, still allows for far too much spying. US won't, because this is a round about way to get around bothering with the niceties of the Constitution and getting warrants and other things.

    Mind you, the issue is not simply government acquisition of this info. This goes to any number of private clients who want to buy it, and the danger of what they could do -- and surely at least some do -- with the info is terrifying.

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  5. Anonymous
    2020-08-09T03:25:51+00:00

    I didn't realize it was that bad. I congratulate Microsoft for their good work. Looks like they handle embedded piggy-backers well. OK, then. Thanks for the information. But we come close to going off-topic which I think is an abuse of the Microsoft Community.

    Hope to run into you elsewhere, even never knowing it. Good luck. OK, bye.

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