Hello guys, I have been playing the game since launch and problems keep appearing since the moment of the slow download. I am not willing to talk about frequent crashing (despite good specs: Ryzen 2700x und 2080 Ti), but the autopilot in airliners like A320 Neo, B747 and B787 is horrible and extremely annoying, in them all!! Suddenly stops working and plane does not respond to any input given at any time, any altitude or any speed! And I am not assigning any crash simulation!!! The same applies to autothrottle! Is any one facing a similar issue? Could you manage to solve it? Thanks! UPDATE on 30.08.2020: So dears, to sum up some of the issues I met, I am putting that in short, keeping in mind I am not a true pilot, just a hobbyist simmer: first, I got relatively good specs PC (Ryzen 7 2700x, Samsung SSD, 16 Gb RAM, RTX 2080 Ti GPU). System all up to date, including BIOS, drivers and other softwares. Running on Windows 10 Pro ver. 2004. regarding game performance: the game struggles with loading speeds. Takes really really long time loading up. On 2K and 4K resolutions despite good specs and GPU there is a lot of frame drops. Opening Chrome in a separate desktop to read charts and route data into FMC for example makes the performance yet more horrible that it leads to the game continuously freezing and sometimes crashing to desktop, that the desktop becomes strangely blank and black that a reboot is then a must. Closing chrome improves the performance a little, but not much. The game freezes as well without having chrome open! Sometimes opening VFR-map, changing weather and co could end up freezing the game and even crashing it! flight control issues: starting with the horribly buggy autopilot buttons: engaging a function cannot be disengaged easily later, vertical speed is strange, that the button must be pressed twice and vertical speed must be inputted twice to force the plane into its ascent or descent. This is seen in all airliners including A320-Neo, B787 and B747. Sometimes (especially in B747) pitching the nose during level control is really horrible and too much! Have never seen all of this in true life and with true pilots! disengaging the autothrottle is catastrophic, that the throttle gets back to idle! Have never seen this as well in true life! B747 ILS is silly! After being established on the localiser, the plane suddenly and during final descent desynchronises with the localiser and G/S, that manual control is definitely a must and sometimes ending up in missed approach/overshooting runway! LNAV is generally working good. However, a strange thing happened when I flew from EHAM to EDDF with B787, where the LNAV suddenly entered a 360° loop just after the second or third waypoint, as if it is not getting recognised. Removing the affected waypoint(s) from the FMC did not help. (is it a bug?!) ATC is horrible!! A lot of bugs! For example, cannot request other approaches, once option selected, nothing happens! Being on IFR, ATC requests to change altitude is horribly silly!! For example, once approaching to finals, the ATC suddenly requests unexplained ascent to high levels (FL120 from 5000 ft as example) and just a few seconds later requests back again to descend back to 4600 ft. Just silly! I would prefer controlling levels myself! ATC does not synchronise with the high-altitude flight data given into the FMC! For example, when a flight is intended to be a high-altitude flight (FL350) with some waypoint(s) having FL370, ATC asks yet only to maintain an altitude of 7000 ft throughout the flight, as an example! That’s a silly function as well! FMC is - generally speaking - not bad, but yet primitive. Cannot change a lot of parameters (like V1, VR and V2) or other thrust or take off limits. FMC does not provide the point of descent as well! This is what I noticed so far. If you noticed some of these bugs, all of them or other bugs, please share. If you could manage to fix any of them, please share as well!

Exactly, but what Amazon are saying is that Microsoft supply the product code.

On the other hand, please do not mention third party softwares; we are talking about stock store softwares. Where did I mention third party software? I've only mentioned stock FSX/XP11 and FS2020. The game has been out for only 2 weeks, give it some time. There is a patch coming out on Thursday and the developers have a roadmap on their website. 90% of the game is there and it works great. Sure, there are a few small bugs with some of the airliners however you can work around them for now until Asobo/MS patch them. My main concern is the number of crashes I've had to desktop - this has made it difficult to fly some long haul routes. I'm personally hoping they resolve these issues first and then work on the rest of the game. The GA aircraft work fine from what I've flown, and the A320neo/787 is 90% functional so I'm happy knowing that this game will have support for the next 10 years.

Yes, it crashes a lot to the desktop and what makes it not playable as well is the fact that controls become suddenly unresponsive by changing camera or opening checklist for example. I mean, you cannot change altitude, change speed, press a button in cockpit, etc, though the game is still running. The whole cockpit becomes solid, nothing can be pressed. And besides, it freezes a lot! I guess freezing issue and frame drop can be solved partially by jumping to DX12 with DLSS, and I wonder why the developers just did release the game with DX11 instead, though I know they plan DX12 in the future. I find this a little chaotic!

Yes, it crashes a lot to the desktop and what makes it not playable as well is the fact that controls become suddenly unresponsive by changing camera or opening checklist for example. I mean, you cannot change altitude, change speed, press a button in cockpit, etc, though the game is still running. The whole cockpit becomes solid, nothing can be pressed. The CTD's are infuriating, I agree. Makes long haul flights almost impossible, hopefully Thursday's patch will resolve some of these crashes. The unresponsive cockpit can be fixed by bringing up the ATC window (scroll lock or click on it from the toolbar) and resizing it. Always fixes the mouse not being able to adjust the cockpit controls for me. It's not ideal but it's a workaround. I understand the devs are aware of all the issues at the moment, but I suppose they have to prioritise where they allocate resources to work on them. I'm currently running the FPS fix mod from nexusmods which has improved my framerate from 20fps to 40-60fps in airliners on my GTX1080Ti @ 3440x1440. I would suggest testing this out until an official patch has been released to address this.

Exactly, but what Amazon are saying is that Microsoft supply the product code. I would still say this is Amazon's responsibility as they are the retailer who you have purchased from. They have sold you the goods so it's up to them to chase it up with Microsoft - not you. Not sure what country you're in but I would check the local laws, as in my country the retailer can get penalties for trying to palm you off to the vendor/manufacturer

Autopilot, Autothrottle and instrumental issues in MS Flight Simulator 2020

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Hello guys,

I have been playing the game since launch and problems keep appearing since the moment of the slow download. I am not willing to talk about frequent crashing (despite good specs: Ryzen 2700x und 2080 Ti), but the autopilot in airliners like A320 Neo, B747 and B787 is horrible and extremely annoying, in them all!! Suddenly stops working and plane does not respond to any input given at any time, any altitude or any speed! And I am not assigning any crash simulation!!!

The same applies to autothrottle!

Is any one facing a similar issue? Could you manage to solve it?

Thanks!

UPDATE on 30.08.2020:

So dears, to sum up some of the issues I met, I am putting that in short, keeping in mind I am not a true pilot, just a hobbyist simmer:

first, I got relatively good specs PC (Ryzen 7 2700x, Samsung SSD, 16 Gb RAM, RTX 2080 Ti GPU). System all up to date, including BIOS, drivers and other softwares. Running on Windows 10 Pro ver. 2004.
regarding game performance: the game struggles with loading speeds. Takes really really long time loading up. On 2K and 4K resolutions despite good specs and GPU there is a lot of frame drops. Opening Chrome in a separate desktop to read charts and route data into FMC for example makes the performance yet more horrible that it leads to the game continuously freezing and sometimes crashing to desktop, that the desktop becomes strangely blank and black that a reboot is then a must. Closing chrome improves the performance a little, but not much. The game freezes as well without having chrome open! Sometimes opening VFR-map, changing weather and co could end up freezing the game and even crashing it!
flight control issues:
starting with the horribly buggy autopilot buttons: engaging a function cannot be disengaged easily later, vertical speed is strange, that the button must be pressed twice and vertical speed must be inputted twice to force the plane into its ascent or descent. This is seen in all airliners including A320-Neo, B787 and B747. Sometimes (especially in B747) pitching the nose during level control is really horrible and too much! Have never seen all of this in true life and with true pilots!
disengaging the autothrottle is catastrophic, that the throttle gets back to idle! Have never seen this as well in true life!
B747 ILS is silly! After being established on the localiser, the plane suddenly and during final descent desynchronises with the localiser and G/S, that manual control is definitely a must and sometimes ending up in missed approach/overshooting runway!
LNAV is generally working good. However, a strange thing happened when I flew from EHAM to EDDF with B787, where the LNAV suddenly entered a 360° loop just after the second or third waypoint, as if it is not getting recognised. Removing the affected waypoint(s) from the FMC did not help. (is it a bug?!)
ATC is horrible!! A lot of bugs! For example, cannot request other approaches, once option selected, nothing happens! Being on IFR, ATC requests to change altitude is horribly silly!! For example, once approaching to finals, the ATC suddenly requests unexplained ascent to high levels (FL120 from 5000 ft as example) and just a few seconds later requests back again to descend back to 4600 ft. Just silly! I would prefer controlling levels myself! ATC does not synchronise with the high-altitude flight data given into the FMC! For example, when a flight is intended to be a high-altitude flight (FL350) with some waypoint(s) having FL370, ATC asks yet only to maintain an altitude of 7000 ft throughout the flight, as an example! That’s a silly function as well!
FMC is - generally speaking - not bad, but yet primitive. Cannot change a lot of parameters (like V1, VR and V2) or other thrust or take off limits. FMC does not provide the point of descent as well!

This is what I noticed so far. If you noticed some of these bugs, all of them or other bugs, please share. If you could manage to fix any of them, please share as well!

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2020-09-01T09:32:58+00:00

Exactly, but what Amazon are saying is that Microsoft supply the product code.
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2020-09-01T09:33:04+00:00

On the other hand, please do not mention third party softwares; we are talking about stock store softwares.

Where did I mention third party software? I've only mentioned stock FSX/XP11 and FS2020.

The game has been out for only 2 weeks, give it some time. There is a patch coming out on Thursday and the developers have a roadmap on their website.

90% of the game is there and it works great. Sure, there are a few small bugs with some of the airliners however you can work around them for now until Asobo/MS patch them.

My main concern is the number of crashes I've had to desktop - this has made it difficult to fly some long haul routes. I'm personally hoping they resolve these issues first and then work on the rest of the game. The GA aircraft work fine from what I've flown, and the A320neo/787 is 90% functional so I'm happy knowing that this game will have support for the next 10 years.
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2020-09-01T09:58:20+00:00

Yes, it crashes a lot to the desktop and what makes it not playable as well is the fact that controls become suddenly unresponsive by changing camera or opening checklist for example. I mean, you cannot change altitude, change speed, press a button in cockpit, etc, though the game is still running. The whole cockpit becomes solid, nothing can be pressed.

And besides, it freezes a lot!

I guess freezing issue and frame drop can be solved partially by jumping to DX12 with DLSS, and I wonder why the developers just did release the game with DX11 instead, though I know they plan DX12 in the future. I find this a little chaotic!
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2020-09-01T10:16:07+00:00

Yes, it crashes a lot to the desktop and what makes it not playable as well is the fact that controls become suddenly unresponsive by changing camera or opening checklist for example. I mean, you cannot change altitude, change speed, press a button in cockpit, etc, though the game is still running. The whole cockpit becomes solid, nothing can be pressed.

The CTD's are infuriating, I agree. Makes long haul flights almost impossible, hopefully Thursday's patch will resolve some of these crashes.

The unresponsive cockpit can be fixed by bringing up the ATC window (scroll lock or click on it from the toolbar) and resizing it. Always fixes the mouse not being able to adjust the cockpit controls for me. It's not ideal but it's a workaround. I understand the devs are aware of all the issues at the moment, but I suppose they have to prioritise where they allocate resources to work on them.

I'm currently running the FPS fix mod from nexusmods which has improved my framerate from 20fps to 40-60fps in airliners on my GTX1080Ti @ 3440x1440. I would suggest testing this out until an official patch has been released to address this.
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2020-09-01T10:37:12+00:00

Exactly, but what Amazon are saying is that Microsoft supply the product code.

I would still say this is Amazon's responsibility as they are the retailer who you have purchased from.

They have sold you the goods so it's up to them to chase it up with Microsoft - not you. Not sure what country you're in but I would check the local laws, as in my country the retailer can get penalties for trying to palm you off to the vendor/manufacturer
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