Hello guys, I have been playing the game since launch and problems keep appearing since the moment of the slow download. I am not willing to talk about frequent crashing (despite good specs: Ryzen 2700x und 2080 Ti), but the autopilot in airliners like A320 Neo, B747 and B787 is horrible and extremely annoying, in them all!! Suddenly stops working and plane does not respond to any input given at any time, any altitude or any speed! And I am not assigning any crash simulation!!! The same applies to autothrottle! Is any one facing a similar issue? Could you manage to solve it? Thanks! UPDATE on 30.08.2020: So dears, to sum up some of the issues I met, I am putting that in short, keeping in mind I am not a true pilot, just a hobbyist simmer: first, I got relatively good specs PC (Ryzen 7 2700x, Samsung SSD, 16 Gb RAM, RTX 2080 Ti GPU). System all up to date, including BIOS, drivers and other softwares. Running on Windows 10 Pro ver. 2004. regarding game performance: the game struggles with loading speeds. Takes really really long time loading up. On 2K and 4K resolutions despite good specs and GPU there is a lot of frame drops. Opening Chrome in a separate desktop to read charts and route data into FMC for example makes the performance yet more horrible that it leads to the game continuously freezing and sometimes crashing to desktop, that the desktop becomes strangely blank and black that a reboot is then a must. Closing chrome improves the performance a little, but not much. The game freezes as well without having chrome open! Sometimes opening VFR-map, changing weather and co could end up freezing the game and even crashing it! flight control issues: starting with the horribly buggy autopilot buttons: engaging a function cannot be disengaged easily later, vertical speed is strange, that the button must be pressed twice and vertical speed must be inputted twice to force the plane into its ascent or descent. This is seen in all airliners including A320-Neo, B787 and B747. Sometimes (especially in B747) pitching the nose during level control is really horrible and too much! Have never seen all of this in true life and with true pilots! disengaging the autothrottle is catastrophic, that the throttle gets back to idle! Have never seen this as well in true life! B747 ILS is silly! After being established on the localiser, the plane suddenly and during final descent desynchronises with the localiser and G/S, that manual control is definitely a must and sometimes ending up in missed approach/overshooting runway! LNAV is generally working good. However, a strange thing happened when I flew from EHAM to EDDF with B787, where the LNAV suddenly entered a 360° loop just after the second or third waypoint, as if it is not getting recognised. Removing the affected waypoint(s) from the FMC did not help. (is it a bug?!) ATC is horrible!! A lot of bugs! For example, cannot request other approaches, once option selected, nothing happens! Being on IFR, ATC requests to change altitude is horribly silly!! For example, once approaching to finals, the ATC suddenly requests unexplained ascent to high levels (FL120 from 5000 ft as example) and just a few seconds later requests back again to descend back to 4600 ft. Just silly! I would prefer controlling levels myself! ATC does not synchronise with the high-altitude flight data given into the FMC! For example, when a flight is intended to be a high-altitude flight (FL350) with some waypoint(s) having FL370, ATC asks yet only to maintain an altitude of 7000 ft throughout the flight, as an example! That’s a silly function as well! FMC is - generally speaking - not bad, but yet primitive. Cannot change a lot of parameters (like V1, VR and V2) or other thrust or take off limits. FMC does not provide the point of descent as well! This is what I noticed so far. If you noticed some of these bugs, all of them or other bugs, please share. If you could manage to fix any of them, please share as well!

I know my dear, that this game is a simulator. But this simulator has been released very early! The fact, that major bugs occur also with, not only other sims, but also generally speaking in othe big softwares as well, is actually not participating in a huge beta Program like Microsoft does! Microsoft has established a complete alpha and beta program and I myself am a Microsoft insider. This alpha and beta has taken a huge part and for a long time simulation with true pilots and many experienced simmers around the globe. A lot of users reported these issues and yet Microsoft released the game without fixing them! And as you said, this is a SIMULATOR! It should include most of the functions in a working condition. So in short: the game was released early and Microsoft should fix all issues sooner as they might plan, or simply refund us back our money!

You're free to get a refund if you want - no ones stopping you. But you need to put things into perspective. Go and install vanilla launch version of X-Plane 11 or FSX, they had the same or more issues and far less ambitious when it comes to what the sim was trying to do back then. The default scenery, weather, aircrafts are significantly better in the base game of FS2020 than what you get in any other sim. On a side note, I'm sure the current situation hasn't helped with game development. It's hard enough as it is without being locked down. Not saying it's an excuse, but just looking at how much more difficult my own job has become working remotely - it must be far more difficult in a profession such as game development where you need regular collaboration. Personally, I would rather this come out earlier and they work with the community and simmers together to resolve the bugs and issues. It gives me something to do while stuck in lockdown and unable to leave the house - but hey, thats just me.

I myself don't want a refund; I support the game. The game is indeed amazing and the Terrain is the best what one could get on a simulator. On the other hand, please do not mention third party softwares; we are talking about stock store softwares. I would rather wait and release a functional software even if I had to postpone release due to hard circumstances like Corona as to release a buggy software, when I want to release it as a paid version! Either I release a beta software with, say, 50% features to monitor functionality and bugs or even keep it alpha until most bugs are discovered and fixed. I myself love the game, and report all bugs to make it yet better and want to keep it, but many people would have a refund because of relatively faulty software. Microsoft has to fix the issues, or at worst take back the game from the store until they fix most of the bugs that are cardinal for the simulation. But sure if Microsoft does not fix the bugs in an accepted time frame (say like that with Windows counterpart), I would definitely use my right to get a refund at the end!

No that I want a refund, but even if you did want won you can't. I bought the premium deluxe off Amazon, and got supplied only that standard version. Amazon, blames Microsoft and Microsoft blames Amazon, the only loser here is me.

If Amazon have sent you the wrong product, i dont see how that is Microsofts fault?

Autopilot, Autothrottle and instrumental issues in MS Flight Simulator 2020

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Hello guys,

I have been playing the game since launch and problems keep appearing since the moment of the slow download. I am not willing to talk about frequent crashing (despite good specs: Ryzen 2700x und 2080 Ti), but the autopilot in airliners like A320 Neo, B747 and B787 is horrible and extremely annoying, in them all!! Suddenly stops working and plane does not respond to any input given at any time, any altitude or any speed! And I am not assigning any crash simulation!!!

The same applies to autothrottle!

Is any one facing a similar issue? Could you manage to solve it?

Thanks!

UPDATE on 30.08.2020:

So dears, to sum up some of the issues I met, I am putting that in short, keeping in mind I am not a true pilot, just a hobbyist simmer:

first, I got relatively good specs PC (Ryzen 7 2700x, Samsung SSD, 16 Gb RAM, RTX 2080 Ti GPU). System all up to date, including BIOS, drivers and other softwares. Running on Windows 10 Pro ver. 2004.
regarding game performance: the game struggles with loading speeds. Takes really really long time loading up. On 2K and 4K resolutions despite good specs and GPU there is a lot of frame drops. Opening Chrome in a separate desktop to read charts and route data into FMC for example makes the performance yet more horrible that it leads to the game continuously freezing and sometimes crashing to desktop, that the desktop becomes strangely blank and black that a reboot is then a must. Closing chrome improves the performance a little, but not much. The game freezes as well without having chrome open! Sometimes opening VFR-map, changing weather and co could end up freezing the game and even crashing it!
flight control issues:
starting with the horribly buggy autopilot buttons: engaging a function cannot be disengaged easily later, vertical speed is strange, that the button must be pressed twice and vertical speed must be inputted twice to force the plane into its ascent or descent. This is seen in all airliners including A320-Neo, B787 and B747. Sometimes (especially in B747) pitching the nose during level control is really horrible and too much! Have never seen all of this in true life and with true pilots!
disengaging the autothrottle is catastrophic, that the throttle gets back to idle! Have never seen this as well in true life!
B747 ILS is silly! After being established on the localiser, the plane suddenly and during final descent desynchronises with the localiser and G/S, that manual control is definitely a must and sometimes ending up in missed approach/overshooting runway!
LNAV is generally working good. However, a strange thing happened when I flew from EHAM to EDDF with B787, where the LNAV suddenly entered a 360° loop just after the second or third waypoint, as if it is not getting recognised. Removing the affected waypoint(s) from the FMC did not help. (is it a bug?!)
ATC is horrible!! A lot of bugs! For example, cannot request other approaches, once option selected, nothing happens! Being on IFR, ATC requests to change altitude is horribly silly!! For example, once approaching to finals, the ATC suddenly requests unexplained ascent to high levels (FL120 from 5000 ft as example) and just a few seconds later requests back again to descend back to 4600 ft. Just silly! I would prefer controlling levels myself! ATC does not synchronise with the high-altitude flight data given into the FMC! For example, when a flight is intended to be a high-altitude flight (FL350) with some waypoint(s) having FL370, ATC asks yet only to maintain an altitude of 7000 ft throughout the flight, as an example! That’s a silly function as well!
FMC is - generally speaking - not bad, but yet primitive. Cannot change a lot of parameters (like V1, VR and V2) or other thrust or take off limits. FMC does not provide the point of descent as well!

This is what I noticed so far. If you noticed some of these bugs, all of them or other bugs, please share. If you could manage to fix any of them, please share as well!

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2020-09-01T08:07:46+00:00

I know my dear, that this game is a simulator.

But this simulator has been released very early! The fact, that major bugs occur also with, not only other sims, but also generally speaking in othe big softwares as well, is actually not participating in a huge beta Program like Microsoft does!

Microsoft has established a complete alpha and beta program and I myself am a Microsoft insider.

This alpha and beta has taken a huge part and for a long time simulation with true pilots and many experienced simmers around the globe. A lot of users reported these issues and yet Microsoft released the game without fixing them!

And as you said, this is a SIMULATOR! It should include most of the functions in a working condition.

So in short: the game was released early and Microsoft should fix all issues sooner as they might plan, or simply refund us back our money!
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2020-09-01T08:38:50+00:00

You're free to get a refund if you want - no ones stopping you. But you need to put things into perspective. Go and install vanilla launch version of X-Plane 11 or FSX, they had the same or more issues and far less ambitious when it comes to what the sim was trying to do back then. The default scenery, weather, aircrafts are significantly better in the base game of FS2020 than what you get in any other sim.

On a side note, I'm sure the current situation hasn't helped with game development. It's hard enough as it is without being locked down. Not saying it's an excuse, but just looking at how much more difficult my own job has become working remotely - it must be far more difficult in a profession such as game development where you need regular collaboration.

Personally, I would rather this come out earlier and they work with the community and simmers together to resolve the bugs and issues. It gives me something to do while stuck in lockdown and unable to leave the house - but hey, thats just me.
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2020-09-01T09:06:42+00:00

I myself don't want a refund; I support the game. The game is indeed amazing and the Terrain is the best what one could get on a simulator.

On the other hand, please do not mention third party softwares; we are talking about stock store softwares.

I would rather wait and release a functional software even if I had to postpone release due to hard circumstances like Corona as to release a buggy software, when I want to release it as a paid version! Either I release a beta software with, say, 50% features to monitor functionality and bugs or even keep it alpha until most bugs are discovered and fixed.

I myself love the game, and report all bugs to make it yet better and want to keep it, but many people would have a refund because of relatively faulty software. Microsoft has to fix the issues, or at worst take back the game from the store until they fix most of the bugs that are cardinal for the simulation.

But sure if Microsoft does not fix the bugs in an accepted time frame (say like that with Windows counterpart), I would definitely use my right to get a refund at the end!
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2020-09-01T09:15:37+00:00

No that I want a refund, but even if you did want won you can't.

I bought the premium deluxe off Amazon, and got supplied only that standard version.

Amazon, blames Microsoft and Microsoft blames Amazon, the only loser here is me.
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2020-09-01T09:24:49+00:00

If Amazon have sent you the wrong product, i dont see how that is Microsofts fault?
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