Hello guys, I have been playing the game since launch and problems keep appearing since the moment of the slow download. I am not willing to talk about frequent crashing (despite good specs: Ryzen 2700x und 2080 Ti), but the autopilot in airliners like A320 Neo, B747 and B787 is horrible and extremely annoying, in them all!! Suddenly stops working and plane does not respond to any input given at any time, any altitude or any speed! And I am not assigning any crash simulation!!! The same applies to autothrottle! Is any one facing a similar issue? Could you manage to solve it? Thanks! UPDATE on 30.08.2020: So dears, to sum up some of the issues I met, I am putting that in short, keeping in mind I am not a true pilot, just a hobbyist simmer: first, I got relatively good specs PC (Ryzen 7 2700x, Samsung SSD, 16 Gb RAM, RTX 2080 Ti GPU). System all up to date, including BIOS, drivers and other softwares. Running on Windows 10 Pro ver. 2004. regarding game performance: the game struggles with loading speeds. Takes really really long time loading up. On 2K and 4K resolutions despite good specs and GPU there is a lot of frame drops. Opening Chrome in a separate desktop to read charts and route data into FMC for example makes the performance yet more horrible that it leads to the game continuously freezing and sometimes crashing to desktop, that the desktop becomes strangely blank and black that a reboot is then a must. Closing chrome improves the performance a little, but not much. The game freezes as well without having chrome open! Sometimes opening VFR-map, changing weather and co could end up freezing the game and even crashing it! flight control issues: starting with the horribly buggy autopilot buttons: engaging a function cannot be disengaged easily later, vertical speed is strange, that the button must be pressed twice and vertical speed must be inputted twice to force the plane into its ascent or descent. This is seen in all airliners including A320-Neo, B787 and B747. Sometimes (especially in B747) pitching the nose during level control is really horrible and too much! Have never seen all of this in true life and with true pilots! disengaging the autothrottle is catastrophic, that the throttle gets back to idle! Have never seen this as well in true life! B747 ILS is silly! After being established on the localiser, the plane suddenly and during final descent desynchronises with the localiser and G/S, that manual control is definitely a must and sometimes ending up in missed approach/overshooting runway! LNAV is generally working good. However, a strange thing happened when I flew from EHAM to EDDF with B787, where the LNAV suddenly entered a 360° loop just after the second or third waypoint, as if it is not getting recognised. Removing the affected waypoint(s) from the FMC did not help. (is it a bug?!) ATC is horrible!! A lot of bugs! For example, cannot request other approaches, once option selected, nothing happens! Being on IFR, ATC requests to change altitude is horribly silly!! For example, once approaching to finals, the ATC suddenly requests unexplained ascent to high levels (FL120 from 5000 ft as example) and just a few seconds later requests back again to descend back to 4600 ft. Just silly! I would prefer controlling levels myself! ATC does not synchronise with the high-altitude flight data given into the FMC! For example, when a flight is intended to be a high-altitude flight (FL350) with some waypoint(s) having FL370, ATC asks yet only to maintain an altitude of 7000 ft throughout the flight, as an example! That’s a silly function as well! FMC is - generally speaking - not bad, but yet primitive. Cannot change a lot of parameters (like V1, VR and V2) or other thrust or take off limits. FMC does not provide the point of descent as well! This is what I noticed so far. If you noticed some of these bugs, all of them or other bugs, please share. If you could manage to fix any of them, please share as well!

To top it off, I bought the premium deluxe, but only got the standard version. Neither Amazon or Microsoft are willing to budge so it's looking like I am going to take one of them through the small claims process. Shocking really.

Yeah I totally agree. This product went from alpha to released really really fast. Basically we paid for a massive beta release. It's smart on their end because they have a massive pool of beta testers who don't know they are beta testing but as the consumer it's really frustrating. Especially since the product looks so incredible but the autopilot system and even the flight control is bugged. I paid for the premium one and the 787 is trash too. My top issues are Autopilot system nightmare 787 747 are totally trash. A320 is hit or miss and toggling things just doesn't work sometimes but it's the most working one. Sim rate is so hard to get started. I press Control shift r +/- so many times before it works. There is no indication of what simrate you are at. You have to hope your aircraft has a clock to see if the seconds are moving too fast or slow. Also it has the same simrate /time acceleration issues that fsx had. The aircraft can't maintain altitude and will sometimes spin out of control 3.smaller issue but removing waypoints on the fmc isn't real. On boeing aircraft it's as easy as tapping one soft key and then tapping another to move one waypoint in front of the other. The fact I can't do that drives me insane. No replay come on now. That's a huge part of fsx I'm not too worried this product looks incredible and I'm sure fixes will be released considering how hyped the product is. I know a major patch was scheduled for this week and delayed so I'm hoping it brings a lot of cures Pmdg will be our savior their products are always top notch. The 737 is scheduled to be the first released in the late fall or early 2021.

Ive worked out the autopilot in the A320Neo. Took some time. But as for the 747. Its totally stuffed for me. I get runaway trim when trying to set a V/S speed. Goes up and down and does not hold a selected V/S at all. The autopilot also cannot seem to follow the track line. Its always going left and right. The 747 is totally broken! FIX it microsoft. I paid you $170AUD money for something I expected to WORK. Bugs all over the place.

They literally made a "GARBAGE" game. I feel like I'm playing arcade with good scenery but simulation. It means I was deceived by the developers who categorized the game as "simulation. They just borrowed the IP and title from the previous game and "didn't implement the main features" in the game. If those features are not in the game, we have to call FS2020 as an arcade game. Watching scenery without main features? Buy only Porsche without a home and live in the car in your entire lifetime. Stupid Asobo. I feel like the IQs of developers who designed autopilot and ILS are lower than monkeys. OR they didn't test those which is worse than monkey IQs. OR they ignored the QA report. In this case MS blows up the game studio which doesn't have qualification to make a game. Garbage game. I will refund the game.

Autopilot, Autothrottle and instrumental issues in MS Flight Simulator 2020

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Hello guys,

I have been playing the game since launch and problems keep appearing since the moment of the slow download. I am not willing to talk about frequent crashing (despite good specs: Ryzen 2700x und 2080 Ti), but the autopilot in airliners like A320 Neo, B747 and B787 is horrible and extremely annoying, in them all!! Suddenly stops working and plane does not respond to any input given at any time, any altitude or any speed! And I am not assigning any crash simulation!!!

The same applies to autothrottle!

Is any one facing a similar issue? Could you manage to solve it?

Thanks!

UPDATE on 30.08.2020:

So dears, to sum up some of the issues I met, I am putting that in short, keeping in mind I am not a true pilot, just a hobbyist simmer:

first, I got relatively good specs PC (Ryzen 7 2700x, Samsung SSD, 16 Gb RAM, RTX 2080 Ti GPU). System all up to date, including BIOS, drivers and other softwares. Running on Windows 10 Pro ver. 2004.
regarding game performance: the game struggles with loading speeds. Takes really really long time loading up. On 2K and 4K resolutions despite good specs and GPU there is a lot of frame drops. Opening Chrome in a separate desktop to read charts and route data into FMC for example makes the performance yet more horrible that it leads to the game continuously freezing and sometimes crashing to desktop, that the desktop becomes strangely blank and black that a reboot is then a must. Closing chrome improves the performance a little, but not much. The game freezes as well without having chrome open! Sometimes opening VFR-map, changing weather and co could end up freezing the game and even crashing it!
flight control issues:
starting with the horribly buggy autopilot buttons: engaging a function cannot be disengaged easily later, vertical speed is strange, that the button must be pressed twice and vertical speed must be inputted twice to force the plane into its ascent or descent. This is seen in all airliners including A320-Neo, B787 and B747. Sometimes (especially in B747) pitching the nose during level control is really horrible and too much! Have never seen all of this in true life and with true pilots!
disengaging the autothrottle is catastrophic, that the throttle gets back to idle! Have never seen this as well in true life!
B747 ILS is silly! After being established on the localiser, the plane suddenly and during final descent desynchronises with the localiser and G/S, that manual control is definitely a must and sometimes ending up in missed approach/overshooting runway!
LNAV is generally working good. However, a strange thing happened when I flew from EHAM to EDDF with B787, where the LNAV suddenly entered a 360° loop just after the second or third waypoint, as if it is not getting recognised. Removing the affected waypoint(s) from the FMC did not help. (is it a bug?!)
ATC is horrible!! A lot of bugs! For example, cannot request other approaches, once option selected, nothing happens! Being on IFR, ATC requests to change altitude is horribly silly!! For example, once approaching to finals, the ATC suddenly requests unexplained ascent to high levels (FL120 from 5000 ft as example) and just a few seconds later requests back again to descend back to 4600 ft. Just silly! I would prefer controlling levels myself! ATC does not synchronise with the high-altitude flight data given into the FMC! For example, when a flight is intended to be a high-altitude flight (FL350) with some waypoint(s) having FL370, ATC asks yet only to maintain an altitude of 7000 ft throughout the flight, as an example! That’s a silly function as well!
FMC is - generally speaking - not bad, but yet primitive. Cannot change a lot of parameters (like V1, VR and V2) or other thrust or take off limits. FMC does not provide the point of descent as well!

This is what I noticed so far. If you noticed some of these bugs, all of them or other bugs, please share. If you could manage to fix any of them, please share as well!

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I have experienced some problems since I installed the simulator. But I'm going to refer to the autopilot.
On Boeing 747 and 787 planes the autopilot is a complete disaster. It is not stable. VS mode is either too low or too high. In LNAV mode, it does not steer on a steady course, steadily deviating. When cruise altitude is reached, it is unable to keep the nose level. Either it rises with a vertical speed of up to 15,000 ft / min, which is absurd, or it descends sharply.
Microsoft must fix this bug that is causing problems on flights.

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2020-08-29T18:47:52+00:00

To top it off, I bought the premium deluxe, but only got the standard version.

Neither Amazon or Microsoft are willing to budge so it's looking like I am going to take one of them through the small claims process.

Shocking really.
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2020-08-29T16:58:36+00:00
Yeah I totally agree. This product went from alpha to released really really fast. Basically we paid for a massive beta release. It's smart on their end because they have a massive pool of beta testers who don't know they are beta testing but as the consumer it's really frustrating. Especially since the product looks so incredible but the autopilot system and even the flight control is bugged. I paid for the premium one and the 787 is trash too.

My top issues are
1. Autopilot system nightmare 787 747 are totally trash. A320 is hit or miss and toggling things just doesn't work sometimes but it's the most working one.
2. Sim rate is so hard to get started. I press Control shift r +/- so many times before it works. There is no indication of what simrate you are at. You have to hope your aircraft has a clock to see if the seconds are moving too fast or slow. Also it has the same simrate /time acceleration issues that fsx had. The aircraft can't maintain altitude and will sometimes spin out of control
3.smaller issue but removing waypoints on the fmc isn't real. On boeing aircraft it's as easy as tapping one soft key and then tapping another to move one waypoint in front of the other. The fact I can't do that drives me insane.
1. No replay come on now. That's a huge part of fsx
I'm not too worried this product looks incredible and I'm sure fixes will be released considering how hyped the product is. I know a major patch was scheduled for this week and delayed so I'm hoping it brings a lot of cures

Pmdg will be our savior their products are always top notch. The 737 is scheduled to be the first released in the late fall or early 2021.
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2020-08-29T08:52:37+00:00

Ive worked out the autopilot in the A320Neo. Took some time.

But as for the 747. Its totally stuffed for me. I get runaway trim when trying to set a V/S speed. Goes up and down and does not hold a selected V/S at all.

The autopilot also cannot seem to follow the track line. Its always going left and right.

The 747 is totally broken!

FIX it microsoft. I paid you $170AUD money for something I expected to WORK. Bugs all over the place.
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2020-08-28T23:34:48+00:00

They literally made a "GARBAGE" game. I feel like I'm playing arcade with good scenery but simulation. It means I was deceived by the developers who categorized the game as "simulation. They just borrowed the IP and title from the previous game and "didn't implement the main features" in the game. If those features are not in the game, we have to call FS2020 as an arcade game.

Watching scenery without main features? Buy only Porsche without a home and live in the car in your entire lifetime. Stupid Asobo.

I feel like the IQs of developers who designed autopilot and ILS are lower than monkeys.

OR they didn't test those which is worse than monkey IQs.

OR they ignored the QA report. In this case MS blows up the game studio which doesn't have qualification to make a game.

Garbage game. I will refund the game.
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