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Hullo Geoffrey, everybody
Yeah it stings doesn't it? Giving these robbers more coin just to have unusable product. I'm sorry about your experiences, it appears the DISK version is just as bad as the regular downloaded version. We must make a stink of this, on any and all outlets for Flight Simulator. There simply must be a way of getting the word out so that some nice EU or US lawyer sees it for what it is, a cash grab with a piece of software unfit for merchantability. I'd avoid throwing any money at Steam, they will give you the INSTALLER, then you will be in the same boat. It's something about our network or hardware configurations, and MS isn't telling. I am like yourself a bit I suppose, 56 and been at PC flight simulation since '95. I initially had MSFS installed on an HP Omen pre-built but I have subsequently built my own again. I refuse to buy another edition, or sign up for Game Pass, I purchased Deluxe, as I said before day 1, and so far I have never seen it run in RETAIL.
And don't tell me they DON'T know. I was on Beta team. They know. This happened as a result of their implementation of security measures, I guarantee it. Beta installed FINE. This ONLY started when it went release to retail, so I'm with you on "security measures" being to blame. Don't give me crud, as I say I can download Outer Worlds just fine.
In short, for ALL of us I believe the solution will be for us to raise a stink on the usual outlets until someone from MS responds to it. In other words become the negative, nay-saying trolls we ALL love so much on the internet and put it out there for people to read and know about. Less 120.00 Ka-chings for them to buy Bethesda with. This thing is a PIG.
A tarted-up, inoperable fat French pig that uses Bing. Now that we see it in the clear perhaps we can get OUR heads clear, and go back to pressuring the industry to produce the stuff we WANT to fly.
The numbers are THERE, it's just that yet again, MS has short sided themselves and after all the 360 controllers get put away and it isn't tops on XBox Live it will be consigned to the same heap as "Flight" was. If they can't sell PMDG on marketplace and make a cut however WILL this thing survive? Speaking OF PMDG, I wonder if they are ready to eat their words yet regarding the future of a certain competitor they refuse to develop for? Best hope MS fanbois pay deep for their product that they have "pronounced" as the future of Flight Simulation. I paid the ridiculous fee for the P3D version but no more.
I gave Asobo honest feedback throughout my time Beta'ing this pig. They steadfastly IGNORED what a lot of the potential consumers were telling them, that the autogen was WRONG, the trees ridiculously HUGE, and the flight model non-existent. We were told those things would get "corrected" by RTM, which is when I packed in the towel on them as far as it goes. I STILL purchased the software, and at Deluxe rate because I wanted to believe. Trust mis-placed and having MS shove their heads up their chutes is NOT a happy making experience.
I suggest we get together somehow, the ones of us that MS has treated like this. I appears from the feedback HERE that there are probably MORE of us than MS would like to admit. I suggest we further this thread, in the interests of either them shutting it down, the likely response, OR of making it more widely known. If Bethsoft can get sued over a DLC contract what the heck do WE call this?